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JN- wrote on 3/25/2021, 4:59 PM

@skalbkali The R6 uses more than one file type. Post Mediainfo info details of the file, and or a short sample clip for download, via Dropbox or similar. Ideally also post your PC specs. Which build number of VP17.

Not many people have used R6 files, so a sample clip is ideal for other users to test on their machines and VP. Make sure you have the latest Studio drivers installed.

Last changed by JN- on 3/25/2021, 5:09 PM, changed a total of 5 times.

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VFR2CFR, Variable frame rate to Constant frame rate link to zip here.

Copies Video Converts Audio to AAC, link to zip here.

Convert 2 Lossless, link to ZIP here.

Convert Odd 2 Even (frame size), link to ZIP here

Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

Codec Render Quality tables zip

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skalbkali wrote on 3/25/2021, 5:36 PM

How do I check if I have the latest drivers in the program?. My computer

Procesor: Intel Core i9-9900K

Płyta główna: Gigabyte Z390 GAMING X

Pamięci RAM: G.SKILL Aegis 32GB [2x16GB DDR4 3000MHz CL16 XMP2]

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Pasta: Arctic mx-2

JN- wrote on 3/25/2021, 7:00 PM

@skalbkali https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/radeon-500-series/radeon-rx-500-series/radeon-rx-580

Try that. I'm not familiar with AMD GPU's, so confirm that that's correct.

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VFR2CFR, Variable frame rate to Constant frame rate link to zip here.

Copies Video Converts Audio to AAC, link to zip here.

Convert 2 Lossless, link to ZIP here.

Convert Odd 2 Even (frame size), link to ZIP here

Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

Codec Render Quality tables zip

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PC ... Corsair case, own build ...

CPU .. i9 9900K, iGpu UHD 630

Memory .. 32GB DDR4

Graphics card .. MSI RTX 2080 ti

Graphics driver .. latest studio

PSU .. Corsair 850i

Mboard .. Asus Z390 Code

 

Laptop… XMG

i9-11900k, iGpu n/a

Memory 64GB DDR4

Graphics card … Laptop RTX 3080

skalbkali wrote on 3/25/2021, 7:35 PM

Once this is installed, all the movies and images are stuttering. You can't watch movies. The computer started louder. I can't work right now

RogerS wrote on 3/25/2021, 7:40 PM

Contact AMD tech support and ask how to update drivers for use with video editing?

It won't help you open the Canon files, though. You probably need to transcode.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (256GB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

JN- wrote on 3/25/2021, 7:41 PM

@skalbkali If the driver update made it worse then roll back to the driver you were previously using, you did take note of the previous version number?

You still need to supply the information I requested in my first post, so users can look at helping you.

 

Last changed by JN- on 3/25/2021, 7:44 PM, changed a total of 2 times.

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VFR2CFR, Variable frame rate to Constant frame rate link to zip here.

Copies Video Converts Audio to AAC, link to zip here.

Convert 2 Lossless, link to ZIP here.

Convert Odd 2 Even (frame size), link to ZIP here

Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

Codec Render Quality tables zip

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PC ... Corsair case, own build ...

CPU .. i9 9900K, iGpu UHD 630

Memory .. 32GB DDR4

Graphics card .. MSI RTX 2080 ti

Graphics driver .. latest studio

PSU .. Corsair 850i

Mboard .. Asus Z390 Code

 

Laptop… XMG

i9-11900k, iGpu n/a

Memory 64GB DDR4

Graphics card … Laptop RTX 3080

skalbkali wrote on 3/25/2021, 7:51 PM

"did take note of the previous version number?" No, unfortunately

Chief24 wrote on 3/25/2021, 8:02 PM

AMD finally released updated drivers for their GPU's yesterday, both "Regular" Adrenaline (WHQL) and the Radeon Pro. Been waiting on this since their last Windows Certified for either were back in early November. Two computers, both with Radeon VII's, both updated, both running Vegas Pro 17 (452), and Movie Studio Platinum 17 (204). Both running fine. One with Pro driver, the other with regular Adrenaline, as it also "Plays some Games".

I have the Canon R6. If you are shooting in C-LOG, need to transcode that file before Vegas Pro will open it. Which, thankfully, having paid for HOS by our illustrious WWAG, doing an Import Assist to either ProRes or MagicYUV makes that footage for editing/coloring "smooth as silk"! And if I do need to edit with MSP17, then would need to transcode to MagicYUV, Cineform, etc. via Vegas Pro, since 1.) MSP17 will not accept ProRes, and 2.) MSP 17 does not have a native internal media management system to do a transcode. Though, aspiring young filmmakers could probably utilize some other available software from the internet! Other than that, I have not shot any footage outside of using C-LOG, but in typical Canon fashion, their files usually do open, maybe a bit sluggish due to the used codec, but workable - even if needing to do proxy workflow.

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VEGAS Pro 20 Edit (411) & HOS (Happy Otter Scripts); DVD Architect 7.0 (100);

Sound Forge Audio Studio 15; ACID Music Studio 11; SonicFire Pro 6.6.9 (with Vegas Pro/Movie Studio Plug-in); DaVinci Resolve (Free) 18.6.5

#2: Gigabyte TRX50 Aero D w/7960x (Noctua NH-U14S TR5-SP6) @ stock; 128GB Kingston Fury Beast RDIMM @4800 MHz; OS/Apps - Seagate Firecuda 540 2TB PCI-e 5.0x4; Documents/Extras/Source/Transcodes - 4TB WDSN850X PCI-e 4.0x4; 4TB Inland Performance PCI-e 3.0x4; 2TB Inland Performance PCI-e 4.0x4; BlackMagic PCI-e Decklink 4K Mini-Recorder; ProGrade USB SD & Micro SD card readers; LG 32 Inch UHD 3840.x2160: PowerColor Hellhound RX Radeon 7900XT (24.1.1); Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit (22631.3155)

VEGAS Pro 20 Edit (411) & HOS; DVD Architect 7.0 (100); Sound Forge Audo Studio 15; Acid Music Studio 11

Canon EOS R6 MkII, Canon EOS R6, Canon EOS R7 (All three set for 4K 24/30/60 Cinema Gamut/CLog3); GoPro Hero 5+ & 6 Black & (2) 7 Black & 9 Black & 10 Black & 11 Black & 12 Black (All set at highest settings - 4K, 5K, & 5.3K mostly at 29.970); Sony FDR AX-53 HandyCam (4K 100Mbps XAVC-S 23.976/29.970)

RogerS wrote on 3/25/2021, 8:27 PM

Great info, Chief. Good to hear from someone with direct experience.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (256GB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

JN- wrote on 3/25/2021, 8:53 PM

@Chief24 Good stuff. Can you give the OP a link to those drivers?

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VFR2CFR, Variable frame rate to Constant frame rate link to zip here.

Copies Video Converts Audio to AAC, link to zip here.

Convert 2 Lossless, link to ZIP here.

Convert Odd 2 Even (frame size), link to ZIP here

Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

Codec Render Quality tables zip

---------------------------------------------

PC ... Corsair case, own build ...

CPU .. i9 9900K, iGpu UHD 630

Memory .. 32GB DDR4

Graphics card .. MSI RTX 2080 ti

Graphics driver .. latest studio

PSU .. Corsair 850i

Mboard .. Asus Z390 Code

 

Laptop… XMG

i9-11900k, iGpu n/a

Memory 64GB DDR4

Graphics card … Laptop RTX 3080

skalbkali wrote on 3/25/2021, 9:04 PM

Chief24. How transcode that file before Vegas Pro will open it.? Does it degrade the quality of the video? I'm sorry, but I understand everything you wrote. I am writing via google translator. I'm from Poland :) Can you write me in plain language what to do?

RogerS wrote on 3/25/2021, 9:34 PM

Chief is recommending this software which includes "Import Assist" for transcoding. link
Does Canon provide any software for editing R5/R6 footage and saving in a more compatible format?

There is no loss of quality going from your files to ProRes or MagicYUV. Just pick one that matches or exceeds the bit depth and color depth of your footage (so 10-bit 4:2:2 should be saved as 10-bit 4:2:2 or greater like 444 or RGB).

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (256GB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Chief24 wrote on 3/26/2021, 5:50 AM

@skalbkali

AMD Driver Link

You might need to change your language at the site, but just go through each box. First one for "Graphics", Second one you will need to "scroll down" once or twice to bring up "Radeon 500 Series", Third Box pick RX 500 Series, Fourth and final is your RX580. Click on "Submit". Subsequent page will open the list for available drivers for the various Operating Systems.

For the transcoding, go to the Happy Otter Scripts site. There is nothing I can write that would do any justice for the various "Tutorials" that Wayne has already posted on his site about the different "Tools". Happy Otter will not run under Movie Studio, so if I need any transcoding done, I just do it within Vegas Pro first, and then pick a suitable codec (usually MagicYUV or Grass Valley HQX), of which either of those are excellent within Movie Studio. And if you don't like either of the above, or don't like Pro Res, you can always output to UT Video, which another forum member (Musicvid) highly recommends. Of all of them, MagicYUV does seem to have the largest file size, but with the newest version of MagicYUV Ultimate, utilizes all those cores. You can find that awesome program Here. Also, at least one mention in the forums.

@JN- @RogerS

Gentlemen, thank you. For the Canon R6 (I am not sure about the R5), they DO Not (Canon) have any software for Windows/MAC. That is for their "Cinema Line" of cameras, though the 1DXIII may have it, and possibly I believe the 5DIV. My previous Canon cameras were the Rebel T1i, T3i, T5i (Does that say something about liking the Odd numbers?), and still currently WILL NOT give up my 80D. Canon does have the DPP (Digital Photo Professional) for the stills side, which is why I do not have a subscription to Adobe for Lightroom anymore, as I find that DPP does an satisfactory job on my pictures. I only shoot in RAW, no JPEG/HEIF, and from the RAW within DPP I can export to either a High-Res JPEG, but typically a gorgeously large TIFF file. If the picture doesn't look great, I put that down to the Idiot holding the 80D/R6 and not having the settings correct (which seems to be a High Percentage of times! 😁)

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VEGAS Pro 20 Edit (411) & HOS (Happy Otter Scripts); DVD Architect 7.0 (100);

Sound Forge Audio Studio 15; ACID Music Studio 11; SonicFire Pro 6.6.9 (with Vegas Pro/Movie Studio Plug-in); DaVinci Resolve (Free) 18.6.5

#2: Gigabyte TRX50 Aero D w/7960x (Noctua NH-U14S TR5-SP6) @ stock; 128GB Kingston Fury Beast RDIMM @4800 MHz; OS/Apps - Seagate Firecuda 540 2TB PCI-e 5.0x4; Documents/Extras/Source/Transcodes - 4TB WDSN850X PCI-e 4.0x4; 4TB Inland Performance PCI-e 3.0x4; 2TB Inland Performance PCI-e 4.0x4; BlackMagic PCI-e Decklink 4K Mini-Recorder; ProGrade USB SD & Micro SD card readers; LG 32 Inch UHD 3840.x2160: PowerColor Hellhound RX Radeon 7900XT (24.1.1); Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit (22631.3155)

VEGAS Pro 20 Edit (411) & HOS; DVD Architect 7.0 (100); Sound Forge Audo Studio 15; Acid Music Studio 11

Canon EOS R6 MkII, Canon EOS R6, Canon EOS R7 (All three set for 4K 24/30/60 Cinema Gamut/CLog3); GoPro Hero 5+ & 6 Black & (2) 7 Black & 9 Black & 10 Black & 11 Black & 12 Black (All set at highest settings - 4K, 5K, & 5.3K mostly at 29.970); Sony FDR AX-53 HandyCam (4K 100Mbps XAVC-S 23.976/29.970)

JN- wrote on 3/26/2021, 6:17 AM

@Chief24 The 5D mk iv only had DPP., similar to R5. Transcoding to say Prores is maybe a good option especially now with improved support in VP18. OP in the future, at some stage, might upgrade to get those improvements. We still don’t know exactly what file type is the issue, OP has not supplied Mediainfo. We are guessing that its 422 10 bit hevc.

I will also make available later a small util “Convert 2 Prores” Requires ffmpeg utils installed and added to the Windows PATH.

Thanks for giving the step by step instructions for OP to download drivers.

Last changed by JN- on 3/26/2021, 6:17 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

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VFR2CFR, Variable frame rate to Constant frame rate link to zip here.

Copies Video Converts Audio to AAC, link to zip here.

Convert 2 Lossless, link to ZIP here.

Convert Odd 2 Even (frame size), link to ZIP here

Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

Codec Render Quality tables zip

---------------------------------------------

PC ... Corsair case, own build ...

CPU .. i9 9900K, iGpu UHD 630

Memory .. 32GB DDR4

Graphics card .. MSI RTX 2080 ti

Graphics driver .. latest studio

PSU .. Corsair 850i

Mboard .. Asus Z390 Code

 

Laptop… XMG

i9-11900k, iGpu n/a

Memory 64GB DDR4

Graphics card … Laptop RTX 3080

JN- wrote on 3/26/2021, 7:04 AM

@skalbkali Drag and drop one or more files onto the util to process, then press P to start processing.

@RogerS @Chief24 Link here to the Util to convert to Prores.

Requires ffmpeg utils downloaded and installed on the Windows PATH.

 

Example of doing that, there are step by step tutorials on the internet for adding items to the PATH also ...

Check if the ffmpeg utils are already available on your system, i.e. type ffmpeg at the command prompt and press enter. If you get an error message then you need to do the following.
             

Download and install say a static version of ffmpeg and add it to the windows PATH. Example ... https://www.gyan.dev/ffmpeg/builds/            https://github.com/GyanD/codexffmpeg/releases/download/2021-03-24-git-a77beea6c8/ffmpeg-2021-03-24-git-a77beea6c8-full_build.7z
         
             Adding the ffmpeg "BIN" folder to the "PATH" ...

             Search for "env" in Windows "search" ... or Select "Settings" "System", then Search ...            

Select "Edit the System enviornment variables" ... Not "Edit enviornment variables for your account". With the "advanced" tab selected click the "Enviornment  Variables button at the bottom right ...
           

Last changed by JN- on 3/26/2021, 10:46 AM, changed a total of 3 times.

---------------------------------------------

VFR2CFR, Variable frame rate to Constant frame rate link to zip here.

Copies Video Converts Audio to AAC, link to zip here.

Convert 2 Lossless, link to ZIP here.

Convert Odd 2 Even (frame size), link to ZIP here

Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

Codec Render Quality tables zip

---------------------------------------------

PC ... Corsair case, own build ...

CPU .. i9 9900K, iGpu UHD 630

Memory .. 32GB DDR4

Graphics card .. MSI RTX 2080 ti

Graphics driver .. latest studio

PSU .. Corsair 850i

Mboard .. Asus Z390 Code

 

Laptop… XMG

i9-11900k, iGpu n/a

Memory 64GB DDR4

Graphics card … Laptop RTX 3080