Cin,

Thanks for the commiseration. :)

I'll just leave things as they are. The plugins are really not that interesting. Free is good if it doesn't cost time. Sony's products install and register perfectly (even since the old pre-Screenblast days). Not that it matters to NewBlue, but I'll look elsewhere for FX when it actually comes to exchanging money!

Dennis

Well, paid software is not free of buggy registrations either. I had so much trouble with Pinnacle Studio Titanium Edition v10's registration for their MPEG-4 encoder. They sent me quite a few codes, but it still doesn't work to this day, although the MPEG-2 encoder registered perfectly and works. Eventually I asked for a full refund. They agreed, but lazy me I still haven't sent them my receipt to get my money back.

I can't move my Newblue plugins on my new Vista PC either. The registration part of things are buggy as hell. I inserted the serial numbers as found in the card that came with my Sony software, but it still has watermarks. Even the CartoonR, which is **free**, doesn't show up without the watermark (just because I am not logged in as admin on the system -- for security reasons).

I hope that company dies or Sony doesn't do business with them again until they straighten up their act.

Cartoonr doesn't even show up. I just downloaded it again (I finally got a response from tech support to my last question) and it goes through the same deal -- send info, get email response, copy/paste unlock key, then nothing, no next button. Cancel is the only option.

I bet their system chokes on my hyphenated name. Some poorly configured systems choke on anything but 26 letters and ten numbers. My bank couldn't produce a debit card with the hyphen, so there's a space on the card -- you should see how some websites get confused by a space in a last name!

Dennis

Are these the NewBlue effects packaged with VMS 8 (MSP) or the New Blue transitions packaged with VMS 9 (MSPP)? If registering the effects or transitions packaged with VMS 8 or 9, you must have the corresponding VMS version installed before you install and register the plugins.

These are the ones packaged with VMS9.

Unless the installation of VMS9 took the plugins along from the VMS8 installation, then both MSP and MSPP were provided. I installed only the material on the original Sony VMS9 DVD.

I uninstalled VMS8 a few minutes ago, and there was no difference in VMS9 or the plugin collection. They are all still there in VMS9.

(Slightly off-topic: What are those little icons to the left of some of the effects and transitions? There are mostly bluish rectangles, one with two different rectangles, and one with a whitish rectangle.)

Dennis

Just to inform you that the NewBlue FX's etc. work without any problems in VMSP Pro 9.0a and full Vegas 8.0c on my machine - XP SP2 (as I had to roll back from SP3 as it gave my machine a malignant brain inflammation - not only concerning Vegas but generally)

Dennis asked:
Slightly off-topic: What are those little icons to the left of some of the effects and transitions? There are mostly bluish rectangles, one with two different rectangles, and one with a whitish rectangle.

[Update] From the Vegas Pro manual, "Applying Video Effects" section. Of course the icons don't show in the text below:

Not all video plug-ins are capable of multithreaded rendering. Plug-ins that do not support multithreaded rendering are displayed with a yellow icon in the Plug-In Manager and Plug-In Chooser windows and with this icon in the Video FX window.

Also wanted to add that Cartoonr works for me in SVMS Platinum v8.

Just found this, if anyone is still struggling, or even cares :/

Q&A
I just purchased a NewBlueFX plug-in and installed it on my computer. It
shows up in my NLE, but it draws the NewBlueFX logo over the video frame. How do I remove this watermark?

In order to remove the watermark, you must activate the product first. To do so, run the "Manage Activation" program that is installed along with the plug-in. You can find this application from the Windows Start menu.

For example, to activate NewBlue Motion Blends, go to Start->Programs->NewBlue->Motion Blends->Manage Activation. Then, paste your serial number into the form. Ta-da! No more watermark.


Yeah, I'll bet 'Ta-da' my a......... ;) Cin

I installed the cartoon plugin, which is free, with VMS8 without a problem. Just follow the steps and registration instructions carefully. It works.

It doesn't work for me on my Vista, because I don't run as an admin. Only the admin can use the CartoonR plugin without the watermark. The same goes for other Newblue plugins too. Very poor engineering.

Perfectly right - but it is not new in Vista: When I install games for the children on their Windows XP machine most games will not install unless the childs user account has administrator rights too....

... and childrens useraccounts with administrator rights really invite all %€#"§ (pardon my french) virus's etc.

Yes, a lot of apps have the problem. On Mac OS X is exactly the same btw. It's about the kind of developers who do this kind of development. They are not accustomed in writing multi-user software.

Look at the unix developers. There are extremely few cases of bugs that happen if you don't run as "root" user. Because their culture and experience is different than the Windows/Mac developers who probably run as admins themselves all the time. In Unix, unless there's a good reason to run as an admin, you just don't do it. And if you go to an IRC channel to ask for help and you happen to mention that you run as root, they kick you out immediately.

All my new PCs with Windows and Mac don't run as admins anymore, on purpose. For security reasons. It's just that developers haven't transitioned to that mentality yet. Even Vegas had many problems originally up to Vegas 7. The $999 Cineform Neo4k software even have such bugs too (I filed 2-3 to them a month ago about it).

Not sure if this has been resolved yet. I see the same thing. In Vista32 (as admin), I get CartoonR and MSPP without watermarks, but MSP from V8 is still watermarked.

I have a support ticket in with Newblue in teh hopes of straightening it out.

@OhMyGosh - You missed the note at the bottom of the KB article: "Note: This does not apply to free or bundled products (such as Cartoonr or plugins that ship with your video editor."

Also, in case people are having trouble with MSPP/watermrksin V9, you may want to look at: http://www.newbluefx.com/index.php?option=com_easyfaq&task=view&id=16&Itemid=123