Constants shutdowns & render failures since the beginning

Lee-James wrote on 9/11/2025, 4:25 PM

Hello.

I have not posted for some time in this forum, despite being a Vegas Pro user and a Movie Studio user before that. I have been using Vegas Pro since version 17 and am currently using version 22.

I have suffered shutdowns in every version up to now! I have had to set the autosave function, but even then recovering the file using this option does not always return me to where I was before. I edit directly on the time line, producing videos for YouTube in the Flight Simulation genre. I have watched many videos on how I might mitigate these shutdowns, but mostly they do not work for me. The best option I have now is to disable GPU Acceleration in the OPTIONS/PREFERENCES/VIDEO section. Mostly, this allows me a long time before I get a shutdown. The downside of this option is that rendering often stops mid-render, so I turn the option back to ON to render and mostly it works. But I still suffer shutdowns and the occasional failure to complete a render.

My system is powerful - AMD Ryzen 9 9850X3D CPU, NVidia Geforce RTX 5070Ti 16GB video card, 64GB RAM and a 4TB Samsung Evo SSD. Could the problem be the preview screen? I keep it at GOOD/AUTO so I get to see something of what the output would be like upon rendering. During rendering, I often notice the preview screen struggling to show a transition for example and often I have to remove a transition and do something else to get the render to get past this point where it failed.

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Now I am getting adverts to upgrade to Vegas Pro 23. I am very reluctant to do this, while I suffer these shutdowns. But if upgrading fixes this, then I am prepared to do it.

I'm sorry if this has been posted elsewhere. Like I said, I have not visited this forum for some time and I have reached a point where the frustration is really getting to me, so I would really appreciate some help and useful comments on this matter. I really like Vegas Pro - you do not charge a stupid monthly subscription and the software is easy to use, compared to some of the more expensive and often complicated options out there. I hope someone can help.

Thanks for listening,

regards,

Lee James

West Sussex UK

virtualairlinepilot.org

Comments

Gid wrote on 9/11/2025, 4:44 PM

@Lee-James Hi,

My system is powerful - AMD Ryzen 9 9850X3D CPU, NVidia Geforce RTX 5070Ti 16GB video card, 64GB RAM

Google -

Yes, the hypothetical AMD Ryzen 9 9850X3D would feature integrated Radeon Graphics, similar to other AMD Ryzen 9000-series processors, although the model number "9850X3D" has not been released and likely refers to the Ryzen 7 9800X3D or the Ryzen 9 9950X3D. These integrated graphics are not for serious gaming but can handle non-gaming tasks like web browsing, media playback, and office application

Download the Trial of Vegas Pro 23 first.

I have a post where I am asking about render speeds. The people who have Intel CPU's are getting good render speeds but myself & 2 other with AMD CPU's are getting slower render times than we were getting n Vegas Pro 22. You're CPU does apparently have some basic integrated graphics whereas ours don't. So If you do download the trial would you render a short 2-3min unedited clip with no fxs in Vegas Pro 22 & then try it in Vegas Pro 23 & post your results on my post, I'd appreciate it, it'll be interesting & informative to know how you get on. 👍

My post - https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vp22-vs-vp23-rendering-speed-vp23-slower-than-vp22--149593/?page=1

Saying that Vegas Pro 23 does seem to be better than previous versions, also I must add that since Vegas Pro 21 - 22 I have next to no crashes, the previous Vegas Pro 18,19 & 20 crashed constantly, so why you are getting crashes is curious.. I think the MediaInfo & your project/render settings would be needed?

RogerS wrote on 9/11/2025, 5:11 PM

My guess is this is an issue where VEGAS is having trouble decoding the media. Please share MediaInfo as requested and perhaps tweaks on the capture side would lead to a better editing experience.

23 does have many decoding improvements and bugfixes over 22 so consider the trial.

For crashes are there any hints in problem details in the crash reporter or in Windows Reliability History?

Lee-James wrote on 9/11/2025, 5:53 PM

Ok,

Not sure what you mean by MediaInfo. I capture video and audio using NVidia ShadowPlay and it's in MP4 format. I then import each piece of MP4 video into the programme and then drag it onto the time line and edit on the fly, I believe the term is.

Right now, with the GPU acceleration ON, I get regular crashes, so I turn it OFF when I edit - then when I'm ready to render a final video, the output is in MP4 and I then turn ON to render because the render just seems to really struggle every time it encounters any transition! But it seems to cope better when I have GPU acceleration ON. I out put the video in INTERNET HD 1080p 29.97 fps (NVENC).

Interestingly, the Preview window seems to default to 1120 x 630 x 32 - is this correct?

Hope this helps

Lee

EricLNZ wrote on 9/11/2025, 6:22 PM

@Lee-James https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

RogerS wrote on 9/11/2025, 6:55 PM

Thanks Eric.

Shadowplay recordings are often variable framerate and fine for viewing but not great for editing.

Would you consider OBS?

One workaround could be doing a conversion. Download the free ShutterEncoder, select your video, go to output format h264 and in advanced options limit the GOP to 60 (I assume your framerate). Try replacing the old media with the new one in VEGAS project media. Keep the GPU on and my bet is you won't have crashes.

Your render format looks good.

I'd be happy to test a Shadowplay video if you could make one available for download.

Lee-James wrote on 9/11/2025, 8:04 PM

Sorry guys,

This is all way above me!

Eric - My source media - I assume you mean the MP4 files of video I have captured using ShadowPlay? If I right click the file there is no option to open with TEXT, so I tried selecting Notepad to open the file and the thing just hung up!

Roger S - I actually have OBS but I find it really confusing to use - which is why I went for ShadowPlay which I have used for years. Yes, I might try a conversion and use a different format as you suggest.

I'll give ShutterEncoder a try for next next review video - which I'm going to do this weekend.

Ok three attempts to upload a ShadowPlay MP4 file - all failed I'm afraid - (19 seconds of footage and 154k). . . .

sorry

Lee

EricLNZ wrote on 9/11/2025, 8:43 PM

@Lee-James You need to download MediaInfo as per the link in Nick Hope's thread which gives you https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo Then follow Nick's instructions.

It is a small, free, useful utility used extensively by forum members to assist with resolving problems. Alternatively if you have MPC-BE or MPC-HC player installed the MediaInfo tab they have provides the same extensive information which looks like this which is from MPC-BE