DVDA only does 1920x1080 60i but it can do 1280x720 60p. The difference is very noticeable when it comes to fast moving scenes like sports. The 720 60p is way better then 1080 60i and you cant "see" the difference in resolution because the TV will upscale it beautifully. I am also playing around with that idea for the upcoming ice skating show I am covering.

Steve: I do not want to make it for a DVD but in Studio there are no render presets for BD 720p.

But I would be happy with medium resolution BD at 720 if it's better looking than SD and or if the length of the movie breaks the 4.2 GB barrier of a DVD.
(Came a little close to that with the project in question...)

Most of my footage is not high speed activities so I can rule that factor out.

OldSmoke: "...but it can do 1280x720 60p" - I will keep this in mind!

I might take the project into Pro 8.1 b - I do not have 12 installed yet.

Thanks, this is getting clarified better.

Out of curiosity, why do you want blueray disc? You can create data DVD with any video file in it, it should be enough for any computer or non-hardware media player. I think some hardware blueray players would be able to play it as well.

If you follow the links in my posts in this thread you should find how to create a custom Vegas Pro1280x720-59.94p template that will work in DVD Architect.

Sorry, I don't have time right now to rewrite it all again.

Warper:

I want to make BluRay discs because I thought my new 720p camera output was a "HD" format that would create a viewing product with better clarity, etc, than SD media.
Now I am discovering that 720p is "in-between" true HD and SD...

I am always striving for high res output within my budget such as 4k, 10k, hyper-realism holographic etc.

John_Dennis: I will read your posting tonight.

Thanks!!

Bill

@Bill:

My DVD's look pretty good on my spiffy new HDTV. My BDs look even better. My old HDV camera was 1440x1080 29.97. My new camera is, among other things, 23.97p. Both formats looks really nice on a BD.

Don't despair -- I bet your 720p will look great. If you launch a BD project in DVD-A you will see that 720 is one of the "legal" choices in the drop down menu. If you don't have a BD RW already, get yourself one and start experimenting!

Regards,

Kimberly

@Kimberly:

Thanks for the insight you provide us and with my posting.

I will look into the DVDA 720 preset you mentioned but first I need to render out in my Sony Studio Platinum editing timeline with my MP4 base footage. Over there in that forum we can only find the template for a 720p based on a MP2 menu listing.

Then, when you go to set your output media there is no BD 720p just the higher BD settings.
I said that is because it is a lighter weight version of Sony Pro. Should I just try a higher setting anyways?

I have not been using the DVDA or any BD lately until I get my new rig built for Pro 12.

I do have a BD/RW. I have not used it much yet until when I got this 59 minute show footage which I thought would need to go on a BD.

Thanks,
Bill

Hi Bill:

I think I'm not fully understanding your situation.

Can you try the following:

In VMS or VP, put some of your media on the timeline. Ideally this would be unedited media from your camera, but it could whatever media you plan to edit in Vegas and use in your output.

Go to your Project Properties and choose Match Media Video Settings and match it to the media you have on the timeline. (You may already know this, but if you hover your mouse over that little filmstrip-looking icon at the top right of your Project Properties template, a title will display that says Match Media Video Settings. Follow those links.)

Does VMS or VP find any matches, or do you get a template that is named something like "Custom 720p x by Blah Blah Blah."

Can you post a screenshot of your project properties after you have done this? (There are instructions on how to post screenshots in the Sticky section if you don't know how to do this. I use the free Windows Snipping Tool and free DropBox but there are other tools too.)

For example, here is what I get on my Sony HC3 HDV footage when I do the above process:



Next choose Render As and choose a BD template with an equals ( = ) sign in front of it. As you may know, that's a template that matches your project properties.

Do you see any BD templates with an equals ( = ) sign? Don't forget to remove any filters/favorites in your Render As window if you have anything like that going on.

Here is what I get for the Sony HC3 HDV footage when I do the above process. I like MainConcept MPEG but there are also some other templates. I realize my screenshots are VP 12 and you have VMS and VP 8, but in theory you should see something similar.

Here too, can you post a screenshot of what you get?



So if you get a match on your properties and a match on you BD Render As template, then you are good to go.

I suspect you are seeing a NO MATCH on one or both and thus you need to build a custom template(s). If you could post some screenshots, that would help me understand and maybe I or others can help you get where you need to go : )

Regards,

Kimberly

@Kimberly:
Below is more detail about my original posting from 11-30-13 on the Vegas Movie Studio forum as I do not usually use the Match Project Settings since my starting files are in a .MOV format and I set up a custom setting based on a MP4. (However I will try that option in the near future as you suggested…)
Bill's posting : "…I am trying to render a HD format at 1280 by 720 for playback on a stand-alone Blu Ray deck.

Studio 12 has higher HD settings for Blu Ray but no 720 p. What gives?

For now I am using a MP4 format Main Concept AVC/AAC for Internet Streaming
with a bit rate of 28,000,000 and a average of 10,000,000. My movie is 57 minutes.
The actual GB size from the render is 3.81GB so I suppose it can fit on a DVD but I still have to convert it to a .VOB with Aieesoft Media Convertor. Then I'll use Ashampoo Burning Studio14 to "Create Movie."
On playback on my PC the movie looks pretty good.

But for a deck only playback should I be using a MP2 format?"
And
"…Thanks for the comments and I have looked over the posting you had a few weeks ago. The main thing new I could try with that info is the option for the Main Concept HDV720 template.
But first my other results with the project I first mentioned.
I converted with Aieesoft Media Convertor (AMC) to a .VOB file then burned with Ashampoo 12 Movie Studio as a movie file on DVD plus media as I ran out of the DVD- media. I saw some BluRay settings with AMC but was in a time crunch and decided to go with the .VOB file for now. However this down scaled my file to SD but upon playback it looks presentable. On my 120Mghz ASUS 3-D monitor it looked just fine. It also played fine on a newer 23 inch Toshiba LCD- TV.
One thing about Ashampoo is that it automatically synchs the audio and video elements when you set the project up.
I have temporarily given up on DVD Architect but may explore that again if it can create a straight up 720p for BluRay.
I think the "extra" settings for BR 720p may be in the Vegas Pro software which I also have and will look into soon.
In conclusion I have gone through 3 main steps with my video: .MOV to MPEG4 to SD/MPEG2/.VOB then to the Authoring/Burn software…"
++++++++++++++++++++++++end posting ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
UPDATE:
My client reported the .VOB on a DVD+ looked great on his BD player but he said there was an unusual black border around it and did not appear to be 16:9 size…
Could that be from the 720p scaling?


Thanks,
Bill

It sounds like the player is not up converting to a display that can handle 1920x1080..

I my opinion there is no need to match your output to your project settings. In fact, I prefer to output HDV (1440x1080 interlaced) to 1280x720 50p or 60p for BD. I simply prefer the smoother motion in 50p for PAL or 60P for NTSC. Unfortunately DVDA can only handle 720p as there is no template for 1080p which would be even better as my Canon HF G30 shoots in 1920x1080 60P and it is stunningly smooth for all my sports videos.

@Stringer: I will try to get the display specs on his TV it is about a year old but is a 23 inch basic wide screen LCD. I do not think it has any HDMI inputs and I do not visit him to see what is actually happening but he was otherwise happy with the playback.
Side note: I did put a Marker at the very end of the timeline and it apparently caused the movie to start playing again automatically which threw him for a loop.

@Old Smoke: I have not delved into the DVDA output aspects yet still concerned with why no 720p/BD render preset in Vegas Studio aside from the 720p MPEG2 template.
Otherwise your info is something good to keep in mind as I develop my preferred BD output for my specific camera which outputs to .MOV.

It doesn't sound like a problem with the TV but with the DVD player- i.e. - the player is sending a 720x1280 raster to the TV, and that is what it is displaying, with a border to fill in the rest of an HD capable display - 1080 x 1920 ..