@fr0sty, Gid already has the RTX3090 card....

@Reyfox RTX 30090 SUPRIM 🤸‍♂️🤸‍♂️🤣

@Former user forgive me oh SUPRIM!!! 😄

@Reyfox 😁

@JamBam @Former user @Vincent-Brice @RogerS @Howard-Vigorita (I don't know why Howard or todd not turning blue), I did Roger's benchmark.

I've been known to mess things up, so not sure about if I did with the benchmarking. Roger will see the results, and if they are out of line, I'll do it again.

Screen shots below. Image 1 is me doing a 25min render of 60P 1080 game play footage.

Image 2 is the final rendering, average speed (fps) and how long it took.

Image 3 MediaInfo of the finished render.

Image 4 is rendering in UHD 4K, the benchmark.

@Reyfox Considering that we have virtually the same systems, I think some settings must be wrong, unless it's me. My fastest render of the project is 1:04.89 but I get a final file size of 140.61MB. That's with Legacy AVC Decoder enabled and 40% Dynamic RAM Preview. Did you customise the render template? According to the example picture you change Profile to Main, Maximum (bps) to 50,000,000 and Average (bps) to 28,000,000. And project preview setting Best (Full). And you've still no crashes with the new card? 🙂

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As per the Benchmark UHD 4K rendering, this is the template you have to render at. Your final fps is higher than mine. As per instructions, DRP was at "0". Preview was Best-Full, and the template was customize using the screenshot below, except I used Encode Mode: AMD VCE. I also have check marked in Preferences>File I/O, Enable legacy AVC decoding and legacy HEVC decoding. But I have turned them off to see if there is any difference because now,

Hardware Decoder to Use is UVD/VCN on AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT. But that's for tomorrow.

And with a full day of testing and hammering the computer with different benchmarks, not a single crash. But to free up RAM, I would exit to do the next test or repeat a test.

ADDED: I tested the benchmark without Legacy check marked and hardware AMD, and it took 10 seconds longer (03:30.64). Interesting....and the rendered file is 140.61MB.

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Ah, where am I going wrong then to get 140.61MB with the same settings as @Reyfox

Hi JamBam, I was a little disappointed with the performance of my RX 6800 XT until I enabled "Legacy AVC Decoding". Performance is better with this setting. By default I get around 4fps in the Vegas 4k project loop section but it will rise to around 22fps with Legacy enabled. Also the render times are slightly faster. But like yours, my GPU doesn't "break a sweat".

 

 

@Vincent-Brice Did you set dynamic ram preview to zero for that test?

It's one of the requirements of that benchmark. I have found depending on media setting DRP to zero can reduce playback speed by up to 25% I don't think I noticed that change with this benchmark though, with rtx3080 I get 12-14fps mainly with 17-18fps near end of loop.

Ah Todd, no I didn't. I was careful to try and get the settings right but didn't realise DRP had to be set to zero for the test. So rendered it at zero and the render went from 1:13 to 3:11!! Good job I didn't record the 1:13 on the spreadsheet Gid or this would have been true of me: "either they are lying, not telling the whole truth, they've tweaked Vegas in a way that they're no sharing" 😂. But I'm still getting FPS in the upper teens into twenties for the marked region with Legacy AVC Decoder enabled (4-5 FPS without). So there was no cashing (however it's spelt) I started Windows fresh and straight into Vegas to do the test. Just fast forward through the vid of it to check I'm doing it right this time, cheers:

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AiKR8DL4bKWahbkCV7bedxeBIGK6hA?e=TIAwKG

 

Just to clarify, setting dynamic ram preview to 0 was recommended only for the fps preview part of the benchmark as that can be affected by caching. This part is hard to do well as values can fluctuate a lot so just pick a median number.

For rendering, use whatever you normally use for dynamic ram preview (200MB, 5%, 10%, etc.) and there is a field to mark the amount. If you would like to run a test of DRP and try 0 and non zero values you are welcome to report both.

In the past there was no standalone column for drp so many people reported their value in the comments field. I added one for dynamic ram preview as I thought it was important and manually copied some of the values into it.

@Reyfox Roger clarified that for the render to use whatever DRP you normally use.

@Yelandkeil I could never afford that card. But I am considering the 5950X to replace my 3900X. I know new hardware is coming, but that's one area I don't want to be an early adopter. I can wait for things to "shake out".

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Ah, where am I going wrong then to get 140.61MB with the same settings as @Reyfox

It's a rough estimation according to your writing disc volume. The actual size is ca. 91MB.

@Vincent-Brice I left it at "0" and in the form I believe it said leave it blank if that was the case.

If I want to preview something, I use HOS KwikPreview or Vegasaur Quick Render.

@Vincent-Brice actual file size is 106MB on my hard drive.

@Yelandkeil I could never afford that card. But I am considering the 5950X to replace my 3900X. I know new hardware is coming, but that's one area I don't want to be an early adopter. I can wait for things to "shake out".

Could is one thing, can and will is quite another thing.

Before I could "organize" the money to buy a Ryzen 5950x, I spent already 165Euro for a Ryzen 4350G or something like that to compensate the waiting time.
I then paid 800Euro. Now it's 529Euro.

And before I could get the RX6900XT, I bought a second RX5500XT for 350Euro.
I paid 969Euro for it, the next morning it's 949...thanks God I buy it for use not for resell.

But I would discourage you buying the CPU though it being so cheap now.
You'd get some more efficiency, but not significant.
Keep the money for something else. Camera?

@Reyfox Hi, so am i reading that right, the 1080p 60fps 25min you got 6.20 whereas we were getting 10mins with Magix AVC & 7,.20 with Voukoder but your UHD Benchmark render is 3.20?

@Yelandkeil thanks for your reply. I am quite content with my camera and gear. The 5950X would be s step up in CPU power, and as you noticed, the price is dropping. With it, I won't be doing any computer upgrades for at least a couple of years.

@Former user, the gaming footage is not demanding. As you can see by average frame rate. I do have some more demanding and better spec'ed footage and will be testing tomorrow.

I haven't done this for a while, PC/GPU has been on all day n is a bit warm & i've got YT music playing 😉🕺 + half a dozen other tabs, I've had 1.04 in the past so 1.05 is within acceptance,

@Reyfox Like Vincent said, only do DRP 0 for the playback test for that section of timeline. DRP 0 does affect render time for everyone, in comparison to the old default of having it set to 200MB. Only need DRP 0 for files that get the black flashing, which I was certain I had read was fixed, however it isn't for every format. Set DRP to whatever you normally use.

@Former user Setting DRP to his normal value may help, but also we may be seeing the limitations of his GPU. When I did the transcode test of a 25m 1080p60 AVC, my GPU was averaging around 135watts, but for the benchmark test the average was more like 185watts with a peak of 220watts, so his GPU is likely getting bottlenecked by benchmark but not by transcode

@Reyfox While your playback framerate went up dramatically with the new GPU, the render time actually got worse. Please doublecheck everything else is working right and feel free to also save a result with 200MB or 5% DRP (or whatever you use) as it is a useful comparison. It really should be at least as good as the former card. It also shouldn't be the lowest VCE score on the list as the CPU is pretty good and GPU is great.

Results table: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b3ggVifKsuT-cp2kQHjum_KnQ4-2jBmUIvzmu7BQZ34/

(Under data/filter views you can limit to only AMD GPUs or only VCE.)

@Yelandkeil thanks for your reply. I am quite content with my camera and gear. The 5950X would be s step up in CPU power, and as you noticed, the price is dropping. With it, I won't be doing any computer upgrades for at least a couple of years.

@Reyfox Haha, same system, same thinking, I have one being delivered today. It was just that I wanted to get a new CPU for my grandson so with the price having just dropped by a third I thought I'd kill two birds with one stone get the 5950x and give him my 3900x 😁 I'll let you know how I get on.

@RogerS I will do the testing tomorrow. I will add DRP too. I have been known to be a slightly dyslexic, so make errors.

@Vincent-Brice let me know how it works out for you!