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larry-peter wrote on 2/21/2013, 5:10 PM
I have had two instances where editors installed parts of MS Office (Word, Excel and/or Outlook) on an editing machine and on both I had to do a clean OS install to get Vegas stable again. Both were Win7/64 machines and Office 2007 components, so maybe the newer versions aren't a problem, but bottom line is editing systems should contain only editing and ancillary software - period. No email, games, weird codecs, spreadsheets, etc. No Office will be on my editing machines again.
Jay M wrote on 2/21/2013, 5:18 PM
Unfortunately, I need MS office to do my job. I also need a bunch of other non -audio/video related apps to get my audio/video job done.

I have not had this problem with older versions of Vegas.

We work extensively with transcripts, so Word needs to co-exist with all my other software.

I have used dual computers in the past, but it's a very inefficient way to work.

I hope there is a fix for this.

thanks,
~Jay
Tom Pauncz wrote on 2/21/2013, 5:28 PM
Jay,
I have Office Professional 2010 on my editing system - Word version 14.0.6129.5000 (64bit) on Win 7 64bit.

Vegas Pro versions 9-12 installed and have never seen the problem you describe.

Perhaps it's the version of MS Word/Office?

Tom
OldSmoke wrote on 2/21/2013, 5:38 PM
May or may not be on topic but I had bad experience with Logitech's latest Setpoint Software for my mouse and keyboard causing issues in many applications including Vegas. Uninstalling it brought everything back to normal.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

DeadRadioStar wrote on 2/21/2013, 5:38 PM
No problems here with Office 2007 and Vegas Pro 12 on Windows 7 x64 .... Office was installed first, then Vegas Pro 12.
TheRhino wrote on 2/21/2013, 5:52 PM
My main editing rig multi-boots between (4) SSDs:

1) Win7 64 with just Vegas 8-10 - no Internet
2) Win7 64 with Vegas 8-12 & Office 2007 - no Internet
3) Win7 64 with Vegas 8-12, Office 2007 & 2010, CS6, Internet & other apps
4) Win8 with Vegas 12 for testing...

Currently I boot into #3 and have no problems rendering (2) VEGs in the background & burning a BR ISO all while editing (1) VEG in the foreground with MS Word open to copy & paste titles provided by the client... Some clients also send their titles on an Excel spreadsheet and I sometimes print-out copies of promo material from Publisher.

All boot options have all Windows & Program updates installed as of last month. Everything has been playing together nicely on my system but I am careful to make backups before I install anything new, including Windows updates. If something breaks I immediately go back to an old image of the offending partition and do a re-install of the broken update/new app. If it breaks again, I don't install that app again... In particular, the New Blue Titler broke everything and so I have never re-installed it or attempted to install the latest release...

A GREAT program for fixing things is CCleaner. I regularly run it, including the Registry fixer, and it does wonders. IMO a lot of problems are from bad registry entries and CCleaner has done a good job of fixing them...

[EDIT] I use the Internet sparingly on this machine, do not have Outlook or email setup, and have Kaspersky running in the background. If something fails I can boot into #2 and get the job out until I have a chance to reload the image from a clean backup...

Workstation C with $600 USD of upgrades in April, 2021
--$360 11700K @ 5.0ghz
--$200 ASRock W480 Creator (onboard 10G net, TB3, etc.)
Borrowed from my 9900K until prices drop:
--32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3200 ($100 on Black Friday...)
Reused from same Tower Case that housed the Xeon:
--Used VEGA 56 GPU ($200 on eBay before mining craze...)
--Noctua Cooler, 750W PSU, OS SSD, LSI RAID Controller, SATAs, etc.

Performs VERY close to my overclocked 9900K (below), but at stock settings with no tweaking...

Workstation D with $1,350 USD of upgrades in April, 2019
--$500 9900K @ 5.0ghz
--$140 Corsair H150i liquid cooling with 360mm radiator (3 fans)
--$200 open box Asus Z390 WS (PLX chip manages 4/5 PCIe slots)
--$160 32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3000 (added another 32GB later...)
--$350 refurbished, but like-new Radeon Vega 64 LQ (liquid cooled)

Renders Vegas11 "Red Car Test" (AMD VCE) in 13s when clocked at 4.9 ghz
(note: BOTH onboard Intel & Vega64 show utilization during QSV & VCE renders...)

Source Video1 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 on motherboard in RAID0
Source Video2 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 (1) via U.2 adapter & (1) on separate PCIe card
Target Video1 = 32TB RAID0--(4) 8TB SATA hot-swap drives on PCIe RAID card with backups elsewhere

10G Network using used $30 Mellanox2 Adapters & Qnap QSW-M408-2C 10G Switch
Copy of Work Files, Source & Output Video, OS Images on QNAP 653b NAS with (6) 14TB WD RED
Blackmagic Decklink PCie card for capturing from tape, etc.
(2) internal BR Burners connected via USB 3.0 to SATA adapters
Old Cooler Master CM Stacker ATX case with (13) 5.25" front drive-bays holds & cools everything.

Workstations A & B are the 2 remaining 6-core 4.0ghz Xeon 5660 or I7 980x on Asus P6T6 motherboards.

$999 Walmart Evoo 17 Laptop with I7-9750H 6-core CPU, RTX 2060, (2) M.2 bays & (1) SSD bay...

TheHappyFriar wrote on 2/21/2013, 6:13 PM
bottom line is editing systems should contain only editing and ancillary software - period. No email, games, weird codecs, spreadsheets, etc

As someone who has had, and still does, a huge variety of software on my PC, along with Vegas, that's about as an old wives tale as you can get with computers. It's right up there with "don't turn your computer on Michelangelo's birthday". Well, maybe it's right up there with "Intel CPU's & motherboards means you have the most stable and best you can get."


Bigger issues are internet (the chances of getting a virus/hacked/etc. are infinitely higher then compared to not having your machine on the net) and (from my experience) Apple products. Both as with most things, mileage will vary.
Jay M wrote on 2/21/2013, 6:54 PM
Thanks for the replies. I'll poke around and see more specifically what the cause is.

~Jay
NickHope wrote on 2/21/2013, 9:22 PM
There's always OpenOffice or LibreOffice, which can edit MS Office documents. I've been using OpenOffice for a decade. LibreOffice seems to be nudging ahead and has an Android app on the way.
Byron K wrote on 2/21/2013, 9:38 PM
+1 for Open Office on my home PC.

I have to use MS Office 2010 at work and hate it. I'm not sure what those MS !d10+$ were doing at their R&D but not having all my buttons on the screen and having to hit a tab for every function is a major step backwards and a royal PITA time waster.
musicvid10 wrote on 2/21/2013, 9:55 PM
Disable all MS Office functions at system startup. They are memory hogs and "can" disrupt.

Other than that precaution, I have run various versions of Vegas and MS Office on the same machines for over a decade with no issues.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 2/21/2013, 10:06 PM
I've got MS Office 2007 on my wife's laptop & Vegas 10, we have Vegas 8 + Office 2007 at work. No issues on any of those.

Update can break things but I haven't seen an office update that breaks Vegas. Maybe it's .net.
ddm wrote on 2/21/2013, 10:15 PM
Never had any issues with word and have had it open for many a session when doing titles and credits etc, cutting and pasting.
Jr. Pascual wrote on 2/22/2013, 11:35 PM
No problems here. I have MS Office 2010 & Vegas Pro 8.,9.10.11, 12 on the same machine.