Let's chalk another one up for missing features!

You can generate a tone when printing to tape. You can also use any sound editor to generate a tone and then import it.

Is it a missing feature? Well, it's not there, so it's missing. However, your statement seems to imply that Vegas is missing a large number of features (... "chalk up another one ..."). While most reviewers and users of this forum generally praise the richness of the Vegas feature set, I can certainly understand that it may be missing features that you might want. However, given the way your statement is worded, it makes it sound like Vegas has an uncommonly small feature set.

Which leads me to my question:

If the feature set in Vegas is so disappointing, please tell me what product (or products) you use as your basis for comparison? I would love to know, because they must be amazingly feature rich, and I would love to have them.

And while we're keeping score, let's chalk up another criticism from Billy.

> Lets chalk up another WHINING post from Zippy.

An even better solution. Have you considered enrolling in some self-esteem classes?

> A solution? Have you considered enrolling in some anger management class?

Why do you need a tone generator to set levels? Most people set the levels from their source, not a benchmark. Do you want to create acoustic benchmarks to play on location as a reference? Then use Sound Forge. It does all that and more. Acoustic Mirror is an incredibly powerful tool. If you can't afford Sound Forge, there is an excellent and accurate free generator and several other industry-standard utilities available from NCH. I'd give you the link, but given your attitude and the position on the learning curve you have so amply demonstrated over the past few weeks, I'll let you find it yourself. IOW, a tone generator in Vegas? Oh, right . . . . . . .

Bobo, you know what your problem is?

You obviously don't like what I'm saying, yet you don't take advantage of the 'ignore This User' feature.

Or maybe you just like to hear yourself complain. Like Zippy.

Do I complain? Damn right. Every hundred posts or so, in-between trying to help somebody, I may get pissed-off just a little. Don't strain your brain too hard Bobo in trying to figure out what kind of crap gets me PO-ed especially when those critcal of me mostly are only critical of me and that pretty much is the only time they post anything. Curious isn't it.

I have been critical of your penchant for ridiculing posters but I have not criticized you personally. It's important that you learn to understand the difference. I can disapprove of what you're saying without criticizing you.

In order to improve the quality of posts on this board let's both work toward not criticizing or ridiculing posters from now on.

> especially when those critcal of me mostly are only critical of me and that pretty much is the only time they post anything. Curious isn't it.

John,
extremely well put. I too would like a tone generator but it's not even worth mentioning it, there are other ways to do what I need, countdowns would be nice too but what the heck I can get plenty from various source, even create my own.

The only reason I want the tone generator is because of another wierd problem. When VV does a PTT when it goes from generating test pattern to leader to program I get a sync loss. This only seems to happen when doing a PTT via D/A! I get around this by just putting 30 seconds of black at the start of the program, and if I want I can put a generated test pattern as well, the only thing I cannot easily put there is tone.

One day I'll find that NCH tone generator again and record my own tones.

Vegas hasn't an air conditioner build in, that is another missing feature ...

And what about a virtual cofee machine, ZippyGaloo?

Vegas is a good, very good program, but it can't have all the thinks you need. Has Premiere the basic feature in Vegas... Multi A/B track?, noooo, Premiere has an A/B track and a lot of superimpose but you can't have a lot of A/B tracks. Is this a missing feature for you or only a different interface design?

Oh, of course Vegas hasn't a Word processor and a Spreadsheet and a Database application. But if it have a mail server on the text generator it will be a good mailing list program.

Josaver.

None of the things you listed have anything to do with video editing! So slap bang the donkey and ride squeak!

->None of the things you listed have anything to do with video editing! So slap bang the donkey and ride squeak<-

I've posted this------

"Vegas is a good, very good program, but it can't have all the thinks you need. Has Premiere the basic feature in Vegas... Multi A/B track?, noooo, Premiere has an A/B track and a lot of superimpose but you can't have a lot of A/B tracks. Is this a missing feature for you or only a different interface design?"


Premiere has nothing to do with video editing????

From this moment I'll press the ignore button for you, GOOD BYE

Josaver.

Actually I would argue that the air conditioning does have a lot to do with video editing given that we are talking about editing on PCs which suffer from heat and a cooling system inherent in the NLE would be a good thing for both types of hardware (the PC's and your brains...)

I strongly suspect that if Vegas had had air conditioning included, it would've been a hot seller over here in Spain this summer, especially at its price point which is well below the average home air conditioning systems around...

See? not a bad idea at all...

Two extra terrestrials stumbled across the earth. They used their Random Communication Interceptor to find out how we communicated.

Alien 1: What they say, these Earthlings?

Alien 2: (Checking the Interceptor) They say "slap bang the donkey and ride squeak!"

Alien 1: Right! Got it.

They went into the nearest building, which happened to be a bar, and called out "Slap bang the donkey and ride squeak!"

Within weeks they were on the local council ....

Isn't one of them running for Governor in California? I think "Slap bang the donkey and ride squeak!" is his campaign theme, no?
Must be Democrat. :)

M

Fooled me there for a sec MyST....thought you were referring to one of the other candidates: you know (I forget HER name) the one who is also a "movie star" and "Slap bang the donkey and ride squeak!" could well have been the name of a film she starred in....maybe not...

Anyway, off to find out if premier pro has air conditioning in its feature set...

Tone generators are useless. Why? Because noonw uses them properly anymore. I'm sure when I say "anyone" you're thinking Joe Blow who makes porn video's, but here's a list of companies that the tone has no relation to the audio on the video:

Warner Bros. Domestic Distributation
Paramount Television Distribution
Columbia Tristar Television Ridtribution (now name Sony Pictures I think)
Graymatter
Saatchi and Saatchi

There are more but I can't remember the name of every distributation company i deal with at work. These companies have shown that their tones levels are the same for almost every tape we've recieved from them, but the program audio levels were always different. ie i need to re-level the mixer every time i pop a new tape in.

So, I found the tone useles in premiere, and didn't even care when it was in Vegas. If you keep your total volume output between 0.0 and -6db you'll be just fine. Noone will complain and you won't need a tone.

Some of the simple WAV editors have a tone generator that you can use to create your needed tone and import into Vegas.

Cool Edit 96 has one. You can still find the limited features free version on the web.

If you can't find it, I will create and Email you a tone of the frequency that you want.

Or use the PTT tone feature of Vegas and then capture it back as a file.

Dave T2

>Let's chalk another one up for missing features!

Careful, this was an unnecessary line that might cause people to think you're a whiner who is not worth helping. You wouldn't want that, would you?

Personally, I'd have tried a google search with "directX" and "tone generator" first. Then, I'd have been able to post something like: "Although Vegas doesn't have a tone generator, the following is a free tool...". Much more positive.

The following are free, but I have not downloaded or tried them. If they don't work for you, replace "directX" with VST and see what you get...my google search was pretty noisy.


http://www.mda-vst.com/ (Follow "Vst Effects to TestGen)

http://www.computersound.de/start/PlugIns__VST_DX_/plugins_vst_dx/plugins_vst_dx_96.html (maxim pack 4)

I would like to be given a choice on tone db when printing to tape. Currently the only choice is -20db. I use -12, so a choice would be cool.

Touche

Well said Billy Boy

>>>There are more but I can't remember the name of every distributation company i deal with at work. These companies have shown that their tones levels are the same for almost every tape we've recieved from them, but the program audio levels were always different. ie i need to re-level the mixer every time i pop a new tape in.<<<

Hmmm...this sounds like the Bonnie and Clyde story that Warren Beatty tells in the documentry about George Stevens. For those who have not seen the film there are segments on all of George Stevens films, and one is about the movie Shane. Warren tells how he insisted the gun shots in his film, Bonnie and Clyde, have a special 'feel' to them. He had heard about how George helped to design the audio in Shane so those shots would sound huge. So they worked and worked and got the results he was looking for - Bonnie and Clyde had awesome gun sound effects. He went to a screening of the film in London and as he sat in the darkened theatre he noticed that everytime there was a gun shot the audio level dropped. So Warren goes up to the projection booth and sees the projectionist has this long chart/graph hung up. Warren asks what it is for and the projectionist says "Every time you see a peak on this graph it is for the gun shots, the levels are all over the place. I haven't seen a film mixed this poorly since Shane."

From this moment I'll press the ignore button for you ...

This is a great idea, and I just tried it, but alas, his user name and posts still show up in the top-level list of messages. The only thing that gets blocked are all the answers from the rest of you.

Is there a way to block a user so, for me, he just simply disappears from this forum?

Is there a way to block a user so, for me, he just simply disappears from this forum


whats da point. then you just read half the conversation and it all gets so confusing. believe me, I've tried it.

I'm trying, but it seems the first post is still here, but we can ignore the user simply no reading his/her posts.

Josaver.