I want to buy a powerful notebook that Vegas 17 will like and not crash. I have a budget of from 3 to 4 K. Suggestions anyone. And please don't refer me to the requirements Page for Vegas as it is a bit dated. I need something for when I travel to edit with.
This recent thread becomes about laptops rather than the Surface Pro: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/surface-pro-7-for-vp17--117608/
you like one of those?
Sorry but I have little knowledge about the Surface Pro 7 or the current notebook market. I was just directing you to a thread where the subject has been covered recently.
okay, looks a little under powered and small. I want a very powerful notebook made with VP17 in mind. thanks for trying
A notebook? When asking these types of questions - one should always tell us what you need said computer for i.e 1080p no effects, 4k...loads of effects and 32-bitfp processing. For 4 grand there are a number of creator laptops available now. I'm not sure about links but Acer have a number of these types of laptops. I know you said notebook - but they're all fucking laptops to me lol. MSI and HP too.
For me, I use an Acer Predator Helios 500 - it is not a notebook lol - it is a desktop replacement, but it comes with enough grunt to sink a battleship. 32 gig of ram, SSD drive and spindle drive...oh an i9 cpu and of course a NVidia GTX 1070 with 8 gig of ram. I do 3d animation at 4k and 32-bitfp processing. Anything without a huge amount of effects including 4k will render very fast and you get no real frame rate drop out. I can play my 10-bit 4k AVIs or the master comp files and even with a few effects - I still can play the film at the best quality with minimal to no frame rate skipping. My point being, because I know you don't want such a hefty beast is look at Acer's Triton range - these are notebooks. Same specs, most have been updated to RTX cards now though...unfortunately MaxQ RTX cards - my Predator laptop has a full 1070 card and does not have access to the onboard Intel GPU...but on saying that a MaxQ 2070 should be at least the equal of a full GTX 1070. And because these cards have AI and Raytracing built in...once software manufactures figure out how to use this extra grunt...then at least you can access this at a later date. Blender 3d is currently coding so it can use the extra grunt.
Hope that helps
A notebook? When asking these types of questions - one should always tell us what you need said computer for i.e 1080p no effects, 4k...loads of effects and 32-bitfp processing. For 4 grand there are a number of creator laptops available now. I'm not sure about links but Acer have a number of these types of laptops. I know you said notebook - but they're all fucking laptops to me lol. MSI and HP too.
😄😄😄 Laptops then, I currently only edit 1080p 60 Youtube videos with plenty of effects and at least three Cameras and multiple Text streams. I do not currently shoot in 4k. I want something with a lot of "grunt" but not having VP17 puking and dieing 6 to 8 times on a 8 minute video. I have a pretty powerful desktop I do most my working on with a 2080TI card that does have crashing issues so I am a little cautious or paranoid about crashing.
I guess what I am asking is for a muscle machine that I do not have to worry about stability with VP17 that is known stable.
For me, I use an Acer Predator Helios 500 - it is not a notebook lol - it is a desktop replacement, but it comes with enough grunt to sink a battleship. 32 gig of ram, SSD drive and spindle drive...oh an i9 cpu and of course a NVidia GTX 1070 with 8 gig of ram. I do 3d animation at 4k and 32-bitfp processing. Anything without a huge amount of effects including 4k will render very fast and you get no real frame rate drop out. I can play my 10-bit 4k AVIs or the master comp files and even with a few effects - I still can play the film at the best quality with minimal to no frame rate skipping. My point being, because I know you don't want such a hefty beast is look at Acer's Triton range - these are notebooks. Same specs, most have been updated to RTX cards now though...unfortunately MaxQ RTX cards - my Predator laptop has a full 1070 card and does not have access to the onboard Intel GPU...but on saying that a MaxQ 2070 should be at least the equal of a full GTX 1070. And because these cards have AI and Raytracing built in...once software manufactures figure out how to use this extra grunt...then at least you can access this at a later date. Blender 3d is currently coding so it can use the extra grunt.
Hope that helps
It does help a lot. Not worried so much about render times (although it IS important) I want stable platform with very smooth a clear playback while editing. I am used to the VP17 interface and continue using it as I have some temporary work arounds to it's crashing issues, unless there is a NLE out there with a similar interface that is better. I have not found one yet.
okay, looks a little under powered and small. I want a very powerful notebook made with VP17 in mind. thanks for trying
I presume that you were referring to the Microsoft Surface Pro 7. How do you get that it is under-powered? You choose the configuration that you want to pay for, up to Intel Core i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD. Here is a link to the technical specs.
And, why do you consider it small when you say that you wanted a notebook. This is the notebook size. Larger than that is a laptop.
Read what I wrote in the other thread about everything else that is necessary or nice to have to go along with the Surface Pro. Contrary to what another user of a Surface Pro complained about without stating which model, I have no problem typing on the keyboard (I have never really liked typing on any laptop keyboard that I have used), and with the docker power supply providing extra USB ports, there is no problem with lack of ports.
I can only assume that Vegas 17 would work on it. How well, I have no idea. But it is a very nice machine...if you want a notebook. It's light, portable, detachable keyboard (magnetic), touch screen.
You also indicated that "I want a very powerful notebook made with VP17 in mind." It doesn't work that way. I doubt that there is a computer manufacturer that makes a computer with VP17 in mind.
I have travelled around the world with different size laptops and my Surface Pro 4. I would not want to have to lug around a laptop again - too heavy and bulky. But that's just me.
okay, looks a little under powered and small. I want a very powerful notebook made with VP17 in mind. thanks for trying
I presume that you were referring to the Microsoft Surface Pro 7. How do you get that it is under-powered? You choose the configuration that you want to pay for, up to Intel Core i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD. Here is a link to the technical specs.
Vegas Pro 17, sorry about not being clear, I figured since I was in Vegas forum it was assumed.
And, why do you consider it small when you say that you wanted a notebook. This is the notebook size. Larger than that is a laptop.
My fault again, I use notebook and laptop terms interchangeable which is an error on my part. Laptop is what I need.
Read what I wrote in the other thread about everything else that is necessary or nice to have to go along with the Surface Pro. Contrary to what another user of a Surface Pro complained about without stating which model, I have no problem typing on the keyboard (I have never really liked typing on any laptop keyboard that I have used), and with the docker power supply providing extra USB ports, there is no problem with lack of ports.
I can only assume that Vegas 17 would work on it. How well, I have no idea. But it is a very nice machine...if you want a notebook. It's light, portable, detachable keyboard (magnetic), touch screen.
Actually sounds very appealing. I9 would be nice with a built in 2080 card
You also indicated that "I want a very powerful notebook made with VP17 in mind." It doesn't work that way. I doubt that there is a computer manufacturer that makes a computer with VP17 in mind.
I have travelled around the world with different size laptops and my Surface Pro 4. I would not want to have to lug around a laptop again - too heavy and bulky. But that's just me.
Well my thought process was since being in a Vegas Forum some folks would have experience with some muscle notebook or laptop (there I go again) and give me some insight. thanks for taking yor time to answer me.
Joe
Hi Joe,
Thanks for clarifying.
I think that you misinterpreted the first point. The link was to the other message which was about the Surface Pro 7, not what VP17 meant. That thread morphed from the Surface Pro to a laptop that may be interesting for you.
If you are looking to do heavy editing on the road, then you will want a laptop which, by definition, has a larger screen than a notebook and, of course, enough muscle to get smooth playback.
Good luck with whatever you choose!
Hi Joe,
Thanks for clarifying.
I think that you misinterpreted the first point. The link was to the other message which was about the Surface Pro 7, not what VP17 meant. That thread morphed from the Surface Pro to a laptop that may be interesting for you.
If you are looking to do heavy editing on the road, then you will want a laptop which, by definition, has a larger screen than a notebook and, of course, enough muscle to get smooth playback.
Good luck with whatever you choose!
Thanks 😊
A notebook? When asking these types of questions - one should always tell us what you need said computer for i.e 1080p no effects, 4k...loads of effects and 32-bitfp processing. For 4 grand there are a number of creator laptops available now. I'm not sure about links but Acer have a number of these types of laptops. I know you said notebook - but they're all fucking laptops to me lol. MSI and HP too.
For me, I use an Acer Predator Helios 500 - it is not a notebook lol - it is a desktop replacement, but it comes with enough grunt to sink a battleship. 32 gig of ram, SSD drive and spindle drive...oh an i9 cpu and of course a NVidia GTX 1070 with 8 gig of ram. I do 3d animation at 4k and 32-bitfp processing. Anything without a huge amount of effects including 4k will render very fast and you get no real frame rate drop out. I can play my 10-bit 4k AVIs or the master comp files and even with a few effects - I still can play the film at the best quality with minimal to no frame rate skipping. My point being, because I know you don't want such a hefty beast is look at Acer's Triton range - these are notebooks. Same specs, most have been updated to RTX cards now though...unfortunately MaxQ RTX cards - my Predator laptop has a full 1070 card and does not have access to the onboard Intel GPU...but on saying that a MaxQ 2070 should be at least the equal of a full GTX 1070. And because these cards have AI and Raytracing built in...once software manufactures figure out how to use this extra grunt...then at least you can access this at a later date. Blender 3d is currently coding so it can use the extra grunt.
Hope that helps
The OP has a $3-4k budget. Those questions do not apply to him. He can afford practicaly anything on the market, and "Dream" was mentioned.
In any case...
Gaming laptops are terrible, because they are practically unusable when they aren't plugged in. They are weaker, overpriced desktop AiO machines (that you can get at comparable prices) with a smaller (often worse) screen. They aren't worth considering, IMHO. Mobile GPUs usually perform noticeably worse than their desktop counterparts (due to TDP limitations, downclocking, etc.).
The only Laptops on the market that I'd pay more than $1,500 or so for, are 15" MacBook Pros.
VEGAS Pro will run well on an i5/i7 Notebook with a GTX1050. The GPU isn't a huge factor with this software. It's all about the CPU. However, quite a few laptops with the highest end CPUs have issues with thermal management (i.e. throttling, overheating, etc.).
For that kind of money, I'd go desktop. The RoI of a Laptop that expensive is simply not in the same league. Build a better desktop for $1.5-2.5k and get a Surface Pro or Laptop with the rest... or something.
A Surface Pro is not the type of machine that I would spend $2k+ on as a primary video editing machine, unless you do family videos in PowerDirector or something. That's literal foolishness. Microsoft really doesn't sell any machines well-suited to this type of work, except maybe the Surface Studio (which isn't worth what they're selling it for, IMHO).
Build a PC and get a mid-range XPS notebook to use on the go. VEGAS Pro is not going to benefit heavily from the GPU grunt. It's not Resolve or even Premiere Pro. You just need a "decent enough" CPU.
A notebook? When asking these types of questions - one should always tell us what you need said computer for i.e 1080p no effects, 4k...loads of effects and 32-bitfp processing. For 4 grand there are a number of creator laptops available now. I'm not sure about links but Acer have a number of these types of laptops. I know you said notebook - but they're all fucking laptops to me lol. MSI and HP too.
For me, I use an Acer Predator Helios 500 - it is not a notebook lol - it is a desktop replacement, but it comes with enough grunt to sink a battleship. 32 gig of ram, SSD drive and spindle drive...oh an i9 cpu and of course a NVidia GTX 1070 with 8 gig of ram. I do 3d animation at 4k and 32-bitfp processing. Anything without a huge amount of effects including 4k will render very fast and you get no real frame rate drop out. I can play my 10-bit 4k AVIs or the master comp files and even with a few effects - I still can play the film at the best quality with minimal to no frame rate skipping. My point being, because I know you don't want such a hefty beast is look at Acer's Triton range - these are notebooks. Same specs, most have been updated to RTX cards now though...unfortunately MaxQ RTX cards - my Predator laptop has a full 1070 card and does not have access to the onboard Intel GPU...but on saying that a MaxQ 2070 should be at least the equal of a full GTX 1070. And because these cards have AI and Raytracing built in...once software manufactures figure out how to use this extra grunt...then at least you can access this at a later date. Blender 3d is currently coding so it can use the extra grunt.
Hope that helps
The OP has a $3-4k budget. Those questions do not apply to him. He can afford practicaly anything on the market, and "Dream" was mentioned.
In any case...
Gaming laptops are terrible, because they are practically unusable when they aren't plugged in. They are weaker, overpriced desktop AiO machines (that you can get at comparable prices) with a smaller (often worse) screen. They aren't worth considering, IMHO. Mobile GPUs usually perform noticeably worse than their desktop counterparts (due to TDP limitations, downclocking, etc.).
The only Laptops on the market that I'd pay more than $1,500 or so for, are 15" MacBook Pros.
VEGAS Pro will run well on an i5/i7 Notebook with a GTX1050. The GPU isn't a huge factor with this software. It's all about the CPU. However, quite a few laptops with the highest end CPUs have issues with thermal management (i.e. throttling, overheating, etc.).
For that kind of money, I'd go desktop. The RoI of a Laptop that expensive is simply not in the same league. Build a better desktop for $1.5-2.5k and get a Surface Pro or Laptop with the rest... or something.
A Surface Pro is not the type of machine that I would spend $2k+ on as a primary video editing machine, unless you do family videos in PowerDirector or something. That's literal foolishness. Microsoft really doesn't sell any machines well-suited to this type of work, except maybe the Surface Studio (which isn't worth what they're selling it for, IMHO).
Build a PC and get a mid-range XPS notebook to use on the go. VEGAS Pro is not going to benefit heavily from the GPU grunt. It's not Resolve or even Premiere Pro. You just need a "decent enough" CPU.
Hmm I disagree with the idea a gaming laptop is a mistake and to get a Mac Book Poo...there isn't such a thing as a Pro Mac. They're media consumption machines and not media creation machines. Look up Lev Manovivh a computer scientist. Unless you shell out for their 30,000 dollar paper weights.
No one seems to have read my post properly. First, my gaming laptop is a desktop replacement. I said this. Using any laptop for rending or editing when you're on battery is stupid full stop. There isn't a laptop in the world that can render or edit whilst on battery. Don't forget as soon as you're on battery - you have throttling issues.
Again - here are the spcs of my gaming laptop - 32 gig of ram, an I9 hexacore which can run at 4ghz reasonably well. And a full desktop GPU with some throttling - I went through the specs and were talking 10 percent max loss of power in comparison to desktop GPU. The laptop doesn't have access to Intel GPU so no Max Q or laptop version of GPU. On top of that 2 thunderbolt ports...which I use to hook in some SSD drives.
I actually recommend the Acer Triton gaming laptop too, which is almost as powerful...depending on the version and the Triton has an RTX 2070 or 2080. My Predator cost 3500 Oz almost a year ago. The Triton 900 which would be the best best for the OP is an amazing machine...it would cost about 4000 grand American. The Predator Helios 700 would cream most desktops. This is the newest version and one above mine. It has just been released. The only downside to the Predator is yes it needs to be plugged in and it's size and so hence I suggested the Triton. Seriously look at this model.
Finally, I also suggested a number of brands that do specilist creative laptops - which if you read the OP properly - you would see that these would be more useful. These include ones from Acer which have RTX or Quadro cards, you've also got MSI and HP. I only suggested gaming laptops because when comparing specs...you get better bang for your buck from mid to high end gaming laptops. Gosh Alienware from Dell have upgradable gaming laptops too.
Look, I don't like to pull the I've got 4 degrees in creative applications and I've been using Vegas since it was Sonic Foundery...but look, I've had to.
Sorry. I did put all of this in my first post. I did not only suggest gaming laptops...I suggested proper brands of creative notebooks designed for what the OP asked for.
Ben
A notebook? When asking these types of questions - one should always tell us what you need said computer for i.e 1080p no effects, 4k...loads of effects and 32-bitfp processing. For 4 grand there are a number of creator laptops available now. I'm not sure about links but Acer have a number of these types of laptops. I know you said notebook - but they're all fucking laptops to me lol. MSI and HP too.
For me, I use an Acer Predator Helios 500 - it is not a notebook lol - it is a desktop replacement, but it comes with enough grunt to sink a battleship. 32 gig of ram, SSD drive and spindle drive...oh an i9 cpu and of course a NVidia GTX 1070 with 8 gig of ram. I do 3d animation at 4k and 32-bitfp processing. Anything without a huge amount of effects including 4k will render very fast and you get no real frame rate drop out. I can play my 10-bit 4k AVIs or the master comp files and even with a few effects - I still can play the film at the best quality with minimal to no frame rate skipping. My point being, because I know you don't want such a hefty beast is look at Acer's Triton range - these are notebooks. Same specs, most have been updated to RTX cards now though...unfortunately MaxQ RTX cards - my Predator laptop has a full 1070 card and does not have access to the onboard Intel GPU...but on saying that a MaxQ 2070 should be at least the equal of a full GTX 1070. And because these cards have AI and Raytracing built in...once software manufactures figure out how to use this extra grunt...then at least you can access this at a later date. Blender 3d is currently coding so it can use the extra grunt.
Hope that helps
The OP has a $3-4k budget. Those questions do not apply to him. He can afford practicaly anything on the market, and "Dream" was mentioned.
In any case...
Gaming laptops are terrible, because they are practically unusable when they aren't plugged in. They are weaker, overpriced desktop AiO machines (that you can get at comparable prices) with a smaller (often worse) screen. They aren't worth considering, IMHO. Mobile GPUs usually perform noticeably worse than their desktop counterparts (due to TDP limitations, downclocking, etc.).
The only Laptops on the market that I'd pay more than $1,500 or so for, are 15" MacBook Pros.
VEGAS Pro will run well on an i5/i7 Notebook with a GTX1050. The GPU isn't a huge factor with this software. It's all about the CPU. However, quite a few laptops with the highest end CPUs have issues with thermal management (i.e. throttling, overheating, etc.).
For that kind of money, I'd go desktop. The RoI of a Laptop that expensive is simply not in the same league. Build a better desktop for $1.5-2.5k and get a Surface Pro or Laptop with the rest... or something.
Actually I already built the desktop, (see my profile) dropped about 4k or a little more before I was done. got a 2080 TI card in it, just having crashing issues that are not resolved per tech support yet (they acknowledge they have an issue) . I was thinking an I9 based notebook with a 1080 or higher card built into it. Don't care if I have to plug it in. Just wondering if anyone had any experience with something like that which is stable with VP17. sometimes I am away from home and don't want to have to wait till I get home to edit and release my video.
Surface pro looks way too light duty
Surface Pro is not the type of machine that I would spend $2k+ on as a primary video editing machine, unless you do family videos in PowerDirector or something. That's literal foolishness. Microsoft really doesn't sell any machines well-suited to this type of work, except maybe the Surface Studio (which isn't worth what they're selling it for, IMHO).
Build a PC and get a mid-range XPS notebook to use on the go. VEGAS Pro is not going to benefit heavily from the GPU grunt. It's not Resolve or even Premiere Pro. You just need a "decent enough" CPU.
I understand that..
A notebook? When asking these types of questions - one should always tell us what you need said computer for i.e 1080p no effects, 4k...loads of effects and 32-bitfp processing. For 4 grand there are a number of creator laptops available now. I'm not sure about links but Acer have a number of these types of laptops. I know you said notebook - but they're all fucking laptops to me lol. MSI and HP too.
For me, I use an Acer Predator Helios 500 - it is not a notebook lol - it is a desktop replacement, but it comes with enough grunt to sink a battleship. 32 gig of ram, SSD drive and spindle drive...oh an i9 cpu and of course a NVidia GTX 1070 with 8 gig of ram. I do 3d animation at 4k and 32-bitfp processing. Anything without a huge amount of effects including 4k will render very fast and you get no real frame rate drop out. I can play my 10-bit 4k AVIs or the master comp files and even with a few effects - I still can play the film at the best quality with minimal to no frame rate skipping. My point being, because I know you don't want such a hefty beast is look at Acer's Triton range - these are notebooks. Same specs, most have been updated to RTX cards now though...unfortunately MaxQ RTX cards - my Predator laptop has a full 1070 card and does not have access to the onboard Intel GPU...but on saying that a MaxQ 2070 should be at least the equal of a full GTX 1070. And because these cards have AI and Raytracing built in...once software manufactures figure out how to use this extra grunt...then at least you can access this at a later date. Blender 3d is currently coding so it can use the extra grunt.
Hope that helps
The OP has a $3-4k budget. Those questions do not apply to him. He can afford practicaly anything on the market, and "Dream" was mentioned.
In any case...
Gaming laptops are terrible, because they are practically unusable when they aren't plugged in. They are weaker, overpriced desktop AiO machines (that you can get at comparable prices) with a smaller (often worse) screen. They aren't worth considering, IMHO. Mobile GPUs usually perform noticeably worse than their desktop counterparts (due to TDP limitations, downclocking, etc.).
The only Laptops on the market that I'd pay more than $1,500 or so for, are 15" MacBook Pros.
VEGAS Pro will run well on an i5/i7 Notebook with a GTX1050. The GPU isn't a huge factor with this software. It's all about the CPU. However, quite a few laptops with the highest end CPUs have issues with thermal management (i.e. throttling, overheating, etc.).
For that kind of money, I'd go desktop. The RoI of a Laptop that expensive is simply not in the same league. Build a better desktop for $1.5-2.5k and get a Surface Pro or Laptop with the rest... or something.
A Surface Pro is not the type of machine that I would spend $2k+ on as a primary video editing machine, unless you do family videos in PowerDirector or something. That's literal foolishness. Microsoft really doesn't sell any machines well-suited to this type of work, except maybe the Surface Studio (which isn't worth what they're selling it for, IMHO).
Build a PC and get a mid-range XPS notebook to use on the go. VEGAS Pro is not going to benefit heavily from the GPU grunt. It's not Resolve or even Premiere Pro. You just need a "decent enough" CPU.
Hmm I disagree with the idea a gaming laptop is a mistake and to get a Mac Book Poo...there isn't such a thing as a Pro Mac. They're media consumption machines and not media creation machines. Look up Lev Manovivh a computer scientist. Unless you shell out for their 30,000 dollar paper weights.
No one seems to have read my post properly. First, my gaming laptop is a desktop replacement. I said this. Using any laptop for rending or editing when you're on battery is stupid full stop. There isn't a laptop in the world that can render or edit whilst on battery. Don't forget as soon as you're on battery - you have throttling issues.
Again - here are the spcs of my gaming laptop - 32 gig of ram, an I9 hexacore which can run at 4ghz reasonably well. And a full desktop GPU with some throttling - I went through the specs and were talking 10 percent max loss of power in comparison to desktop GPU. The laptop doesn't have access to Intel GPU so no Max Q or laptop version of GPU. On top of that 2 thunderbolt ports...which I use to hook in some SSD drives.
I actually recommend the Acer Triton gaming laptop too, which is almost as powerful...depending on the version and the Triton has an RTX 2070 or 2080. My Predator cost 3500 Oz almost a year ago. The Triton 900 which would be the best best for the OP is an amazing machine...it would cost about 4000 grand American. The Predator Helios 700 would cream most desktops. This is the newest version and one above mine. It has just been released. The only downside to the Predator is yes it needs to be plugged in and it's size and so hence I suggested the Triton. Seriously look at this model.
Finally, I also suggested a number of brands that do specilist creative laptops - which if you read the OP properly - you would see that these would be more useful. These include ones from Acer which have RTX or Quadro cards, you've also got MSI and HP. I only suggested gaming laptops because when comparing specs...you get better bang for your buck from mid to high end gaming laptops. Gosh Alienware from Dell have upgradable gaming laptops too.
Look, I don't like to pull the I've got 4 degrees in creative applications and I've been using Vegas since it was Sonic Foundery...but look, I've had to.
Sorry. I did put all of this in my first post. I did not only suggest gaming laptops...I suggested proper brands of creative notebooks designed for what the OP asked for.
Ben
I like the specs on your notebook, are you running Vegas 17 on it and not having any problems?? and thanks for the other comments. Rendering or for that matter editing is silly on battery. I agree.
A notebook? When asking these types of questions - one should always tell us what you need said computer for i.e 1080p no effects, 4k...loads of effects and 32-bitfp processing. For 4 grand there are a number of creator laptops available now. I'm not sure about links but Acer have a number of these types of laptops. I know you said notebook - but they're all fucking laptops to me lol. MSI and HP too.
For me, I use an Acer Predator Helios 500 - it is not a notebook lol - it is a desktop replacement, but it comes with enough grunt to sink a battleship. 32 gig of ram, SSD drive and spindle drive...oh an i9 cpu and of course a NVidia GTX 1070 with 8 gig of ram. I do 3d animation at 4k and 32-bitfp processing. Anything without a huge amount of effects including 4k will render very fast and you get no real frame rate drop out. I can play my 10-bit 4k AVIs or the master comp files and even with a few effects - I still can play the film at the best quality with minimal to no frame rate skipping. My point being, because I know you don't want such a hefty beast is look at Acer's Triton range - these are notebooks. Same specs, most have been updated to RTX cards now though...unfortunately MaxQ RTX cards - my Predator laptop has a full 1070 card and does not have access to the onboard Intel GPU...but on saying that a MaxQ 2070 should be at least the equal of a full GTX 1070. And because these cards have AI and Raytracing built in...once software manufactures figure out how to use this extra grunt...then at least you can access this at a later date. Blender 3d is currently coding so it can use the extra grunt.
Hope that helps
The OP has a $3-4k budget. Those questions do not apply to him. He can afford practicaly anything on the market, and "Dream" was mentioned.
In any case...
Gaming laptops are terrible, because they are practically unusable when they aren't plugged in. They are weaker, overpriced desktop AiO machines (that you can get at comparable prices) with a smaller (often worse) screen. They aren't worth considering, IMHO. Mobile GPUs usually perform noticeably worse than their desktop counterparts (due to TDP limitations, downclocking, etc.).
The only Laptops on the market that I'd pay more than $1,500 or so for, are 15" MacBook Pros.
VEGAS Pro will run well on an i5/i7 Notebook with a GTX1050. The GPU isn't a huge factor with this software. It's all about the CPU. However, quite a few laptops with the highest end CPUs have issues with thermal management (i.e. throttling, overheating, etc.).
For that kind of money, I'd go desktop. The RoI of a Laptop that expensive is simply not in the same league. Build a better desktop for $1.5-2.5k and get a Surface Pro or Laptop with the rest... or something.
A Surface Pro is not the type of machine that I would spend $2k+ on as a primary video editing machine, unless you do family videos in PowerDirector or something. That's literal foolishness. Microsoft really doesn't sell any machines well-suited to this type of work, except maybe the Surface Studio (which isn't worth what they're selling it for, IMHO).
Build a PC and get a mid-range XPS notebook to use on the go. VEGAS Pro is not going to benefit heavily from the GPU grunt. It's not Resolve or even Premiere Pro. You just need a "decent enough" CPU.
Hmm I disagree with the idea a gaming laptop is a mistake and to get a Mac Book Poo...there isn't such a thing as a Pro Mac. They're media consumption machines and not media creation machines. Look up Lev Manovivh a computer scientist. Unless you shell out for their 30,000 dollar paper weights.
No one seems to have read my post properly. First, my gaming laptop is a desktop replacement. I said this. Using any laptop for rending or editing when you're on battery is stupid full stop. There isn't a laptop in the world that can render or edit whilst on battery. Don't forget as soon as you're on battery - you have throttling issues.
Again - here are the spcs of my gaming laptop - 32 gig of ram, an I9 hexacore which can run at 4ghz reasonably well. And a full desktop GPU with some throttling - I went through the specs and were talking 10 percent max loss of power in comparison to desktop GPU. The laptop doesn't have access to Intel GPU so no Max Q or laptop version of GPU. On top of that 2 thunderbolt ports...which I use to hook in some SSD drives.
I actually recommend the Acer Triton gaming laptop too, which is almost as powerful...depending on the version and the Triton has an RTX 2070 or 2080. My Predator cost 3500 Oz almost a year ago. The Triton 900 which would be the best best for the OP is an amazing machine...it would cost about 4000 grand American. The Predator Helios 700 would cream most desktops. This is the newest version and one above mine. It has just been released. The only downside to the Predator is yes it needs to be plugged in and it's size and so hence I suggested the Triton. Seriously look at this model.
Finally, I also suggested a number of brands that do specilist creative laptops - which if you read the OP properly - you would see that these would be more useful. These include ones from Acer which have RTX or Quadro cards, you've also got MSI and HP. I only suggested gaming laptops because when comparing specs...you get better bang for your buck from mid to high end gaming laptops. Gosh Alienware from Dell have upgradable gaming laptops too.
Look, I don't like to pull the I've got 4 degrees in creative applications and I've been using Vegas since it was Sonic Foundery...but look, I've had to.
Sorry. I did put all of this in my first post. I did not only suggest gaming laptops...I suggested proper brands of creative notebooks designed for what the OP asked for.
Ben
I like the specs on your notebook, are you running Vegas 17 on it and not having any problems?? and thanks for the other comments. Rendering or for that matter editing is silly on battery. I agree.
You get smooth playback with a few caveats - but by and by...the machine just works. The caveats are dependent on 4k or 1080p and how many effects I'm running. I get full quality playback which is smooth so long as I'm not using intense effects. This at 4k, 32bitfp full levels with 10bit uncompressed AVIs mind you. Crashes are negligible - nothing is perfect. If I'm running intensive effects - I drop down to full preview mode and I get smooth playback. Vegas is actually a very well coded program - it's rubbish machines and rubbish machines built by amateurs that seem to be the problem.
Remember my machine is a desktop replacement - it is f****** heavy to cart about - but it is still more portable than a desktop. Also remember Acer have just released the Helios Predator 700...this has an RTX gpu and not Max Q this would shit all over my machine. And finally - don't forget the Acer Triton 900 with a 4k flip out monitor...I think it might even be touchscreen. Oz price is 5000 - so depending on where you are...it would be in the op price range.
Ben
A notebook? When asking these ol - it is a desktop replacement, but it comes with enough grunt to sink a battleship. 32 gig of ram, SSD drive and spindle drive...oh an i9 cpu and of course a NVidia GTX 1070 with 8 gig of ram. I do 3d animation at 4k and 32-bitfp processing. Anything without a huge amount of effects including 4k will render very fast and you get no real frame rate drop out. I can play my 10-bit 4k AVIs or the master comp files and even with a few effects - I still can play the film at the best quality with minimal to no frame rate skipping. My point being, because I know you don't want such a hefty beast is look at Acer's Triton range - these are notebooks. Same specs, most have been updated to RTX cards now though...unfortunately MaxQ RTX cards - my Predator laptop has a full 1070 card and does not have access to the onboard Intel GPU...but on saying that a MaxQ 2070 should be at least the equal of a full GTX 1070. And because these cards have AI and Raytracing built in...once software manufactures figure out how to use this extra grunt...then at least you can access this at a later date. Blender 3d is currently coding so it can use the extra grunt.
Hope that helps
The OP has a $3-4k budget. Those questions do not apply to him. He can afford practicaly anything on the market, and "Dream" was mentioned.
In any case...
Gaming laptops are terrible, because they are practically unusable when they aren't plugged in. They are weaker, overpriced desktop AiO machines (that you can get at comparable prices) with a smaller (often worse) screen. They aren't worth considering, IMHO. Mobile GPUs usually perform noticeably worse than their desktop counterparts (due to TDP limitations, downclocking, etc.).
The only Laptops on the market that I'd pay more than $1,500 or so for, are 15" MacBook Pros.
VEGAS Pro will run well on an i5/i7 Notebook with a GTX1050. The GPU isn't a huge factor with this software. It's all about the CPU. However, quite a few laptops with the highest end CPUs have issues with thermal management (i.e. throttling, overheating, etc.).
For that kind of money, I'd go desktop. The RoI of a Laptop that expensive is simply not in the same league. Build a better desktop for $1.5-2.5k and get a Surface Pro or Laptop with the rest... or something.
A Surface Pro is not the type of machine that I would spend $2k+ on as a primary video editing machine, unless you do family videos in PowerDirector or something. That's literal foolishness. Microsoft really doesn't sell any machines well-suited to this type of work, except maybe the Surface Studio (which isn't worth what they're selling it for, IMHO).
Build a PC and get a mid-range XPS notebook to use on the go. VEGAS Pro is not going to benefit heavily from the GPU grunt. It's not Resolve or even Premiere Pro. You just need a "decent enough" CPU.
Hmm I disagree with the idea a gaming laptop is a mistake and to get a Mac Book Poo...there isn't such a thing as a Pro Mac. They're media consumption machines and not media creation machines. Look up Lev Manovivh a computer scientist. Unless you shell out for their 30,000 dollar paper weights.
No one seems to have read my post properly. First, my gaming laptop is a desktop replacement. I said this. Using any laptop for rending or editing when you're on battery is stupid full stop. There isn't a laptop in the world that can render or edit whilst on battery. Don't forget as soon as you're on battery - you have throttling issues.
Again - here are the spcs of my gaming laptop - 32 gig of ram, an I9 hexacore which can run at 4ghz reasonably well. And a full desktop GPU with some throttling - I went through the specs and were talking 10 percent max loss of power in comparison to desktop GPU. The laptop doesn't have access to Intel GPU so no Max Q or laptop version of GPU. On top of that 2 thunderbolt ports...which I use to hook in some SSD drives.
I actually recommend the Acer Triton gaming laptop too, which is almost as powerful...depending on the version and the Triton has an RTX 2070 or 2080. My Predator cost 3500 Oz almost a year ago. The Triton 900 which would be the best best for the OP is an amazing machine...it would cost about 4000 grand American. The Predator Helios 700 would cream most desktops. This is the newest version and one above mine. It has just been released. The only downside to the Predator is yes it needs to be plugged in and it's size and so hence I suggested the Triton. Seriously look at this model.
Finally, I also suggested a number of brands that do specilist creative laptops - which if you read the OP properly - you would see that these would be more useful. These include ones from Acer which have RTX or Quadro cards, you've also got MSI and HP. I only suggested gaming laptops because when comparing specs...you get better bang for your buck from mid to high end gaming laptops. Gosh Alienware from Dell have upgradable gaming laptops too.
Look, I don't like to pull the I've got 4 degrees in creative applications and I've been using Vegas since it was Sonic Foundery...but look, I've had to.
Sorry. I did put all of this in my first post. I did not only suggest gaming laptops...I suggested proper brands of creative notebooks designed for what the OP asked for.
Ben
I like the specs on your notebook, are you running Vegas 17 on it and not having any problems?? and thanks for the other comments. Rendering or for that matter editing is silly on battery. I agree.
You get smooth playback with a few caveats - but by and by...the machine just works. The caveats are dependent on 4k or 1080p and how many effects I'm running. I get full quality playback which is smooth so long as I'm not using intense effects. This at 4k, 32bitfp full levels with 10bit uncompressed AVIs mind you. Crashes are negligible - nothing is perfect. If I'm running intensive effects - I drop down to full preview mode and I get smooth playback. Vegas is actually a very well coded program - it's rubbish machines and rubbish machines built by amateurs that seem to be the problem.
Thanks for your help, I like Vegas and built my desktop around it (actually VP17 does have some coding issues that I am sure they will resolve shortly, not my "rubbish Machine".... :) (I don't take it personal and understand your point exactly. Your information is exactly what I wanted. many many thanks!! Not worried about the weight as long as I don't need a fork lift to move it around.
Remember my machine is a desktop replacement - it is f****** heavy to cart about - but it is still more portable than a desktop. Also remember Acer have just released the Helios Predator 700...this has an RTX gpu and not Max Q this would shit all over my machine. And finally - don't forget the Acer Triton 900 with a 4k flip out monitor...I think it might even be touchscreen. Oz price is 5000 - so depending on where you are...it would be in the op price range.
Ben