Dvd not playing on all TV’s even with same player

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Ken-Tonks wrote on 4/13/2025, 6:56 PM

 

will this work? It's just a standard MP4 file. I was going to just copy settings from my Sony Vegas Studio but the settings on Pro 22 are way more complicated. I just need basic settings that I can use to burn a decent DVD with best possible sound.

Ken-Tonks wrote on 4/13/2025, 6:58 PM

If if helps I can screen shot what the settings are on older Sony Vegas. That one worked fine. This one almost did too but one DVD burned fine and other only played on certain TV's. No idea why.

EricLNZ wrote on 4/13/2025, 7:30 PM

Which version of Vegas Movie Studio were you using? Do you still have it installed?

If so create a blank project with it using the settings that worked for you and save it. The vf file created should open in VP, hopefully with all your settings. Save it under a new name before adding media so it is available for future use. Leave the audio at the default.

Your mp4s have a framerate of 25 which is PAL. You are converting to NTSC 29.97 which will involve resampling but anyway you are downgrading to SD so there's quality loss anyway.

If you are exporting just to DVD then mp4 is the incorrect file type. You should be using mpg. But before we explore how you are creating your DVDs it is preferable that your Project Settings match how you will render for DVD so the video settings should look like this

Ken-Tonks wrote on 4/13/2025, 7:45 PM

thanks so much. I will try it as soon as I can get to it, hopefully tonight. The older Movie Studio is on an old Vista Windows 7 computer. If the computer wasn't throwing blue screens once a month I would have just kept using that as it did all I needed. That version can't be used on Windows 11 so I don't think I can do that. The options on the old one are simple, like "best" rather than so many choices. Which is good unless you don't understand what the choices mean. I changed some setttings before you sent over the above and burned a new DVD. going to throw it on to see if by some miracle it works. I'll let you know! I don't understand what "auto poplulates" when You add media to your timeline and what I have to set. Is the above what I need to set manually? thanks again very much.

3POINT wrote on 4/13/2025, 10:36 PM

These are mp4 music videos I purchase via subscription as a DJ. You are looking at 1080dp at best quality. Not uploading anywhere. Just mixing and burning to dvd to play with a standard dvd player to any TV

Any recent (HD)TV is able to play your 1080p mp4. Downgrading to mpeg2 DVD format is in my opinion turning gold into s..t

EricLNZ wrote on 4/13/2025, 11:03 PM

I suspect for Ken it's the audio that matters, not the picture quality. But rendering as mp4 to put on thumb drives is much easier than using discs. Trouble is TVs older than around 12-15 years may not have USB inputs.

3POINT wrote on 4/14/2025, 12:17 AM

I suspect for Ken it's the audio that matters, not the picture quality. But rendering as mp4 to put on thumb drives is much easier than using discs. Trouble is TVs older than around 12-15 years may not have USB inputs.

You can also connect your TV to a soundsystem when audio/sound quality matters. TVs older than 12-15 years, when still exist, have also no streaming possibilities. The musicvideos @Ken-Tonks is trying to bring back to stone-age DVD, you can also stream in (upscaled) 4k quality from Youtube.

Ken-Tonks wrote on 4/14/2025, 9:17 AM

3point. I am a Dj/VJ. I have been mixing songs and music videos for decades. The DVD’s are for home use in my bar room. There are 6 tv’s spread all around the bar that are mostly older and have been there for decades. 2 aren’t even flat panel and the Sony like that actually fives the best picture off DVD. The quality of the picture has always been fine except when the original mp4 may itself be low quality from the 50’s or 60’s. My stereo setup runs 8 amps with 17 speakers and 2 subs. Since the tv’s are smaller the picture quality is actually very good. Plugging in thumb drives or hooking up computers to play music may give better results but I’ll tell you it looks great and sounds amazing and I really don’t want to screw around with it at this point. So the DVD’s play through the sound system, not through the TV speakers of some surround sound system like you may be assuming since I’m still using Dvd. The sound system is easy 6000 watts and not the fake wattage they assign to some surround system amps today. So it kicks butt but we probably never play it over 100 watts or so. I do have spotify etc. but what I do is make the music morph into each other a lot of times both with sound and the video. So I try to make it interesting to watch. Sometimes I’ll have album covers open like drapes to intro the song and/or end it before next one etc.. i like having them on DVD, its easy for others to thumb through, and its just easy for me. It may be a case of the new cars have more hp than the cars of the past but I still prefer the muscle cars

EricLNZ wrote on 4/14/2025, 6:47 PM

@3POINT You shouldn't assume that everyone is like you and has the latest and greatest 4K/8K camera, TV etc. As for streaming that relies on the internet and with the world situation how it is at present that may not be reliable in the future. Cable sabotage could be a weapon of war.

3POINT wrote on 4/15/2025, 3:04 AM

@EricLNZ When you want to keep working/using old technology than do also not upgrade to the latest Vegasversion and Computers, as @Ken-Tonks did. Vegaspro has very limited Disc-authoring and new computers don't even have any Discdrives. Vegaspro and computers are designed to support nowadays technology and not technology of the past.

3POINT wrote on 4/15/2025, 5:13 AM

@Ken-Tonks just a side notice, as being a former Club DJ (70-80s) I had a huge music collection (vinyl records, analogue tapes and CD's). Since I have almost every record also in digitized form stored on a laptop which is connected to my sound system and plays my music collection randomly and seamless (Mediamonkey). I said goodbye to my vinyl records and CD's already for years (sold to collectors) The only items I still have is the complete repertoire of Bob Marley and The Wailers (Vinyl records and CD`s) and my 1980's Akai GX-625 Reel to Reel Taperecorder.

 

Ken-Tonks wrote on 4/15/2025, 6:47 AM

I upgraded to latest Vegas because the old Version, which worked much better btw, would not work on a new operating system and my old computer is dying. Somehow lost the install disks. It never hung up like the new one does and was more intuitive to use in some ways. So what you are telling me is this great new technology is not capable of burning a simple DVD as well as the decade old version? Did they forget how its done. I have a solid DVD burner on brand new computer upgraded specifically to use with this VP 22 program and it freezes still when I add songs to timeline in particular. I spend half my time waiting for it to unfreeze rather than working. But THIS is the “new technology” you want me to switch my amazing old school setup over to because you like streaming better? No thanks

Ken-Tonks wrote on 4/15/2025, 7:11 AM

i think I mentioned I tried burning a DVD with different setting that I researched before you posted the actual settings I should be using. It worked with the exception of the black border. I think I fixed that as well on a short 3 song test mix all video fill screen. I was still going to use your settings as I want the best possible result but unless I’m wrong do “project properties” auto load when you add your first media clip/song? On mine should I change in from PAL to NTSC form or is that just showing the form the media IS, and should be left alone?

 

 

Ken-Tonks wrote on 4/15/2025, 7:13 AM

Eric

3POINT wrote on 4/15/2025, 7:35 AM

@Ken-Tonks Just wait till your self-burned discs aren't playable anymore.

To me what counts is that I can hear and view my music/video collection in a very comfortable way and in best quality (as long as my old ears and eyes allow) without needing a turntable, a reel to reel tapemachine, a cassetteplayer, a DATplayer, a minidisc player, a CDplayer, a VHS player, a DVDplayer. a Blu-rayplayer etc and without needing a huge storage for all the different media. And with streaming I have also access to media I don't possess.

Ken-Tonks wrote on 4/15/2025, 7:58 AM

3Point, what do you mean they won’t be playable? If I own the disc and I own the player what is going to stop me from playing them? Its your way that can change in format and price and availability that is all out of your control. Aside from that why are you even bringing all this up??? I asked specific questions about settings to burn DVD’s from my new VP22 that clearly has that as one of its functions and you keep going off on how bad DVD’s are compared to streaming. So what? If I bring my ‘69 Mustang in for service I don’t need a lecture on why I should be driving a Tesla, especially not over and over. I get it, you like streaming. Good luck with that. I like old school and prefer something tangible to hold onto. You sold your record collection I still have mine. And they said cd’s were better than records and they weren’t. I fell for that one I’m not interested in doing so again.

3POINT wrote on 4/15/2025, 8:12 AM

If I bring my ‘69 Mustang in for service I don’t need a lecture on why I should be driving a Tesla, especially not over and over.

But what you are trying to do is build today a '69 Mustang...!

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Dexcon wrote on 4/15/2025, 8:17 AM

@Ken-Tonks  ... A possible other method.

I get the impression that you/were using 'Burn Disc' from Tools in both Sony Vegas Move Studio (version not stated thus far) and Vegas Pro 22. I could be wrong but my understanding is that Burn Disc in Sony Movie Studio only came with the Platinum version. My Sony Movie Studio 13 Platinum versions also came with DVD Architect 5.0 but I also have DVDA 5.2 or 6.0 that came with Sony Vegas Pro versions up to version 13.

If you have a version of DVD Architect (DVDA), try rendering video from Vegas Pro 22 as either MPEG-2 or AVC and importing that render into DVDA - but then you'll also need to separately render the audio to a choice of a number formats (the choices are given in DVDA's user manual accessible from DVDA's user manual) and import that render on to DVDA's timeline, and then burn the DVD project to a DVD disc from DVDA. I've not done it so I can't be sure that MPEG-2 doesn't allow a combined video and audio render for DVDA purposes.

i still use DVDA 6.0 to burn to Blu-Ray disc with AVC using the above method and haven't experienced a problem over the years (other than the occasional crappy disc) with playback issues on either Sony or Panasonic DVD/BD players. And I have for some time been using Windows 11 and previously W10 (since 2015 when W10 was launched).

In suggesting this, the DVD/BD burn from a DVDA product will be contemporaneous with your Sony Movie Studio which will (if necessary) recompress the video and/or audio - so it shouldn't matter where the original video render came from whether that be Sony Movie Studio Platinum or any version of Vegas Pro.

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Ken-Tonks wrote on 4/15/2025, 9:00 AM

Ken-Tonks wrote on 4/15/2025, 9:02 AM

Ken-Tonks wrote on 4/15/2025, 9:05 AM

My custom settings. Are they ok? Should i change project properties to NTSC or is that just what it is and leave it?

Ken-Tonks wrote on 4/15/2025, 9:14 AM

Dexcon. It was version 6. I am just using “burn dvd” on VP22. I burned 2 dvd’s and one worked perfectly and other worked on 3 or my 6 tv’s in bar room all playing at same time. Weird. But I believe it is a setting and not that it can’t work. The picture and sound was excellent on the one that worked on all the tv’s and on the ones the did play the 2nd dvd. So strange. I was going to try and use 6 on my new computer but I lost the discs somehow. Just have the damn box and the application disc

 

 

Ken-Tonks wrote on 4/15/2025, 9:20 AM

3point, not sure I get what you are saying? It has a “burn dvd” option and I burned one that worked perfectly and one that had issues. Why are you saying I’m trying to build a 69 mustang when this program is supposed to be able to burn DVD’s and has worked for me once? I think I have a setting off.

3POINT wrote on 4/15/2025, 9:26 AM

@Ken-Tonks I assume you live in an NTSC country (USA). Your DVD should be burned according NTSC specifications (when your DVDplayer and your TV's aren't PAL compatible). Means your DVD should be burned with this settings:

Problem is that your mp4's (the one you showed us) is PAL, for that you should use this setting:

When your DVDplayer and TV isn't PAL compatible, this DVD will not play.