DVD - Printers, R200/220/320 ? - any good?

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Coursedesign wrote on 11/18/2005, 8:46 AM
I don't understand the ink smearing problems reported here. Mine (even Ritek 4x) dry immediately.

the slicks he wants full black, just printing them with my inkjet I'm getting about 10 pages per black ink cartridge, i.e. the ink is costing more than the DVD and its case, yipes.

Do what I do: create a black separation, print it first on a laser, then print a color-only separation on an inkjet.

Did you know you can even get laser-printable KromeKote 1S Laser High Gloss? Looks simply stunning.
Dan Sherman wrote on 11/18/2005, 3:25 PM
What's a slick?
farss wrote on 11/18/2005, 3:59 PM
The piece of paper that goes on the outside of a DVD case.
Bob.
Heysues wrote on 2/4/2006, 10:56 PM
I have been using the R200 for a long time nows.. printed 100s of discs...

Quality just dandy - but OH what a pain in the arse... So finicky loading the tray... Had to babysit each one.. Even when it did go in (usually after a nudge) don't think it every ejected properly...

Today.. Noticed the semi-transparent "lip" thingy on the tray was quite tattered.. Couldn't get a disc to work at all anymore...


Went out to buy a new one....... Ended up going with the R220 - as opposed to the R300 or R340.. mainly due to price... R3xx series is nice if you need all the fancy card readers / preview screen..

But.. for $99 - $50 mail in rebate (best buy).. i went with R220

The design apperance is totally different from R200 & R300... Looks really cheap in comparison....

HOWEVER... performance wise.. It leaves my R200 in the dust.

Thinking the R220 actually came out AFTeR the R300 series.. cuz they really reengineered the disc loading mechanics...


The tray doesn't have the thin "lip" that has tendancy to wear out.. and it "sucks em in" and "spits em out" just dandy

No more babysitting!!

R220 - Best, least expensive disc priinter (49-$90) out there

Dont be fooled by its rather dull apperance as i almost was!
Grazie wrote on 2/4/2006, 11:14 PM
How resistant to smearing, smudging and water resistant is the finished print?

TIA

Grazie
jrazz wrote on 2/4/2006, 11:25 PM
Genuine epson ink does better than my primera Bravo II unit in that regard right after printing, but after it dries, there is no difference that I can tell. Also, this kind of depends on the disc. I placed a link a day ago or so on primera's new water resistant discs. You might want to take a look at them.

j razz
Coursedesign wrote on 2/5/2006, 1:19 AM
Has anybody tried to print DVDs on the Epson R800?

It is supposedly much faster than the R200/300 series.

colinu wrote on 2/5/2006, 5:39 AM
At my work I have both a R1800 (A3 version of R800) and a R200. R1800 is a joy to print discs on, R200 is a pain.
Coursedesign wrote on 2/5/2006, 10:20 AM
Thanks for the feedback!

How is it a joy? Is the R1800 faster, or just easier/more tolerant than the R200 (which sometimes is finicky)?
GaryKleiner wrote on 2/5/2006, 12:01 PM
I have used The Epson R200 for a while now, and it is a pain, but works pretty well.. until the tray loading and unloading starts to be unreliable.

I just got an R220 and not only is the tray edge redesigned, but the feed and positioning mechanism is faster and that cuts about 25 seconds off the 3 minute print time of the R200.
It also kicks the tray out with much more authority.

The buttons also have a much better 'click' feel to them.

Anyone printing a lot of discs on these Epson printers should check out a continious ink feed system such as by reliantdigital.com. You will save a LOT of money over buying cartridges all the time.

Gary
cbrillow wrote on 2/6/2006, 5:49 AM
I'm on my second R200. I am very satisfied with the print quality and find the accompanying Print CD software to be adequate and easy to use.

However -- it there were another similarly-priced choice in the U.S. market, I would run to them rather than put any money into Epson.

The early CD/DVD tray design -- with the thin plastic strip on the leading edge -- made them very fragile and prone to malfunction if the strip was even slightly abused.

I took very good care of my tray, but the printer, itself, was very tempermental. Epson stresses that you must align an arrow on the tray with the arrow on the slot into which it's inserted, but the first thing the printer does is to push the tray back, rather than to draw it in. To get it to work right, I'd have to push the tray back in a bit. I've read that many other users also have to do this.

On one occasion, the printer apparently didn't see the tray at all, and sucked it in at runaway-train speed -- many times faster than the normal rate, and the whole thing literally disappeared into the printer. Under normal printing conditions, a portion of the tray extends out through a slot in the back, but in my case, a good 8 inches or more shot out the back, slamming the plastic strip on the edge against the laser printer that is behind the Epson on the desktop.

Sometime after that, it would fail to initialize properly. At the end of the cycle, there would be the sound of a motor running at breakneck speed, followed by a grinding gear sound, and two rapidly flashing error LEDs on the top.

I found -- quite by accident -- that leaving the thing turned off for weeks or months at a time could somehow inexplicably "fix" it. I picked up a refurbished R200 from Epson just before Christmas, and the "old one" was apparently offended, because it started working again. Decided to keep it in service until it crapped out again, and used it to print about a dozen CDs before that happened.

I put the refurbed unit into service, and quickly found out that it wasn't as simple as unplugging one R200 and plugging in a replacement. Windows insisted upon installing it as a new device, and left me puzzled as to why there were now two R200s control programs in the system tray, and which one to get rid of. Sheesh.

The refurbed unit came with a newly-designed tray, which is now tapered to a rather sharp point, rather than having the plastic strip. It worked flawlessly on the first 3 or 4 discs, but eventually fell into a mode where it will completely eject the tray when it starts the cycle. Then I have to wait for it to error out and tell me to reinsert the tray, after which it seems to print ok.

Another Vegas user on this board has had the same problem, but his R200 will occasionally start printing in the wrong location on the disc when this happens. My opinion is that the Epson R200 is the 'Pinnacle' of CD/DVD printers: when it works, it's easy to use and works well.
Dach wrote on 2/6/2006, 8:20 AM
I also use the R200 and have had my share of frustrations, but all in all it is acceptable. I Imagine that the R220 has been improved upon by the feedback from the R200.

We should remember that the R200 and equivalent models were really first generations printerst with the direct to disc option.