DVD - Printers, R200/220/320 ? - any good?

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Avene wrote on 10/25/2005, 8:21 AM
Oh yeah, that sounds like a good idea. Sorry I missed that previous thread.
Coursedesign wrote on 10/25/2005, 10:07 AM
I always have a thin white ring on the outside of the prtint area, using the Epson design software. Any ideas?

Have you adjusted the Inner/Outer Diameter Settings in the File menu?


J_Mac wrote on 10/25/2005, 11:33 AM
No, I reacted with frustration and went back to my Avery design program. Thanks for your help.
Do you know the numbers to maximize the printable area between the inner ring and outer ring measurements? Thanks, John.
JJKizak wrote on 10/25/2005, 1:00 PM
The defaults are 43 and 16. If you want to go to the edges set them for 38 and 17 for standard discs. If you have "print to hub" discs set the hub to 21 and the outside to 19. These are from memory so I might be wrong.

JJK
Zion wrote on 10/25/2005, 1:29 PM

I have the R200. works great no problems...

I've printed about 136 disc, 68 inserts at the highest quality before I had to change ink and the pictures were Full color.

ZION
J_Mac wrote on 10/25/2005, 1:30 PM
Thanks, I'll give it a try. John
Coursedesign wrote on 10/25/2005, 1:41 PM
If you want to go to the edges set them for 38 and 17 for standard discs

If you have a ruler with a millimeter scale (like any office ruler), you can check the right "number" yourself, for each of your disk types.

I'm so glad Congress passed the Metric Act in 1862!

:O|

Jsnkc wrote on 10/25/2005, 1:49 PM
You never want to print right to the edges of the disc because if it gets on the area of the disc that isn't printable and you put it in a drive you will have some nice spin art on your CD...and could ruin your lens as well if ink splatters on it. It's good to always leave a little border on the inner and outer rings.
beerandchips wrote on 10/25/2005, 6:11 PM
FrigidNDEditing writes:

Sounds like its time for beerandchips to get an automated one - assuming that it's worth a grand or two to buy an auto burn/print solution.

Assuming (of course) that your time is worth that much.

Dave

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Exactly Dave, But, I work for tightasses and they won't spring for one. As long as the check clears I guess.

Steve
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 10/25/2005, 6:21 PM
Ahh yes - the joys of working for someone else rather than yourself and not being able to decide that yourself - ah well, at least working for someone else gets you steady money :)

Dave
Randy Brown wrote on 11/17/2005, 12:54 PM
Are the R220s any better than the R200s (and R300s) as far as the tray not going in? Also... someone here (a long time ago) mentioned a place to buy the trays pretty cheap...anyone recall where?
TIA,
Randy
MichaelS wrote on 11/17/2005, 1:17 PM
Our secretary ordered several R200 replacement trays from National Parts Depot www.nationalparts.com several months ago. I checked the site, but failed to find them listed.

You may want to check directly with them. Pehaps they have a few or can direct you elswhere.

Good Luck!
plasmavideo wrote on 11/17/2005, 1:35 PM
Do a search for part # 1274077.

it doesn't show up under the generic R200 parts list.
Randy Brown wrote on 11/17/2005, 2:56 PM
Found them ...thanks guys!
I would still like to hear from anyone (that used to have the R200/300 that now has an R220 or R300) if there is any difference in performance.
Thanks again,
Randy
Coursedesign wrote on 11/17/2005, 3:28 PM
The difference is in card reader/display, not the print engine.

Epson's R800 and R1800 printers print CDs/DVDs much faster though, and with better quality (different print engine and different inks).
goshep wrote on 11/17/2005, 6:41 PM
My R200 complaint list:

1. Ink is expensive.
2. Unless (as mentioned earlier) you print regularly, you'll suffer clogged nozzles and have to use the clean nozzle feature which consumes ALOT of expensive ink.
3. If a color cartridge runs out, you can't continue printing black text until the empty cartridge is replaced with another expensive full cartridge..
4. If you suffer a clogged nozzle and one or more of your cartridges are low on ink, it won't allow you to nozzle clean until the cartridges are replaced with expensive new cartridges.
5. Did I mention ink is expensive?
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Coursedesign wrote on 11/17/2005, 7:36 PM
Goshep,

The problems you listed are features of all Epson printers I know.

If you don't use your printer at least once per week, get a Canon and forget about printing CDs and DVDs.
ushere wrote on 11/17/2005, 8:28 PM
well i'm exceedingly happy with my canon 4000.

in and out, as the bishop said to the actress.

leslie
NickHope wrote on 11/18/2005, 3:36 AM
I have 2 Epson R210 printers (Thai version of R200). I have had bad jamming problems with both. The problems start after about just 100 discs when the clear lip on the edge of the tray wears thin.

On the one I'm using at the moment I have to start with the tray pushed all the way in, not with the arrows lined up.

I'm using Ritek 4x printables and I have to spray them with 2 thin coats of acrylic lacquer from the hardware store to prevent the ink blurring in the long run.

Nick
Dan Sherman wrote on 11/18/2005, 4:09 AM
Never had a problem with my Epson R200.
Works great for DVD tops,---unless you have large runs to deliver.
As for the cost of ink,----yes it costs money,----but it's hard to print without it.
Part of doing business I suppose.
If you drive you have to buy gasoline,---right?
If you print you have to buy ink.
No way around it.
You could buy ink in bulk and fill your own cartridges.
I don't have the dexterity or the time for that nonsense.
Of course there's always the felt pen.
But really!
logiquem wrote on 11/18/2005, 5:11 AM
Real printing on CD-DVD is invaluable in term of professionnal look. I would never go back myself to hand writing. I have an old first generation Epson i use every day and it works very well. It was really a god sent 3 years ago.

I use plain cheap Q-Ink cartridges since 1 year. They cost about nothing and i did'nt have problems with it.
farss wrote on 11/18/2005, 5:28 AM
Forget about the problems of printing the DVD/CDs, what about the damn slicks?
Current job the client only wants 25 DVDs, that bit's simple enough but the slicks he wants full black, just printing them with my inkjet I'm getting about 10 pages per black ink cartridge, i.e. the ink is costing more than the DVD and its case, yipes.
Maybe it's time to invest in a colour laser but them not cheap and a set of toner cartidges and the space to house the thing...
So you pass the cost onto the client and then he looks in the supermarket and sees el cheapo DVDs with full color screen printing retailing for $1.50 each, yeah sure economies of scale and all that but if I was sensibly to factor in my time I'd be charging him $10 per DVD.
Bob.
JJKizak wrote on 11/18/2005, 5:30 AM
I have the 960 and no problems.
1...Never had ink smearing
2...No ink past the edges when printing all the way to the edge of the disc
3...The printer will always be ready if you reset the pressure lever to normal paper. If you let it hang in the open it will require nozzle cleaning.
4...I have printed 387 discs on one set of cartridges with the default density settings.
5...Positioning the disc holder prior to printing is now an "autonomic response" and the registration is usually within +- .0025"
6...My only complaint is the somewhat buggy software of which Epson tries to "emulate" Norton. While the "gloss" is not there the quality is acceptable.

JJK
dand9959 wrote on 11/18/2005, 8:29 AM
I have the 320 and am happy enough with it:

Cons:
- Expensive ink
(I tried using cheap cartridges, but they smeared, smudged, leaked. I've never had that problem with the Epson carts.)
- Finicky CD tray feed. Sometimes it takes 2 or 3 tries to get the CD to feed into the printer. (Though, I've not had to replace the tray as others have reported. I've printed about 250 discs so far.)
- Ink takes a long time to dry. (Not really an issue for me since I store the printed discs in their own DVD cases as soon as they come out of the printer.)

Pros:
- Very nice quality print on many brands of discs.
- Price was right.

I typically print between 5 and 50 discs per run. I seem to get 80-120 prints per set of cartridges.