Error Vegas Pro 21 ? "Adjustment Event" and Picture in Picture

Amivideotek wrote on 8/19/2023, 9:10 AM

I tried Picture in Picture in the new video effect Insert Adjustment Event, but this doesn't seem to work! See attached snapshot. Shouldn't the outside part be transparent or cyan in this example?
Or did I misunderstand?

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Grazie wrote on 8/19/2023, 10:42 AM

@Amivideotek - Chances are the explanation wasn’t clear enough.

m3lquixd wrote on 8/19/2023, 1:03 PM

This really is a problem that is happening with this new feature and I hope they fix it.

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Grazie wrote on 8/19/2023, 1:10 PM

This really is a problem that is happening with this new feature and I hope they fix it.

@m3lquixd - If this is “official”, then possibly @VEGASDerek would like to jump in.

Amivideotek wrote on 9/2/2023, 1:44 PM

Does no one else have this problem?

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RogerS wrote on 9/2/2023, 11:57 PM

All the Fx that move pixels around have this issue (crop, cookie cutter, etc.) It seems intentional but unfortunate and hopefully will be changed to work like the adjustment tracks.

Amivideotek wrote on 9/3/2023, 1:51 AM

It still works on the old method.
The same goes for "Adjustment track", I don't really see what this gives me more. On the other hand, there are a lot of easy to make interesting improvements in Vegas Pro that would help me tremendously such as : Lock an entire Track, Copy an entire Track, Different colours of markers, Restart to Normal Speed at Cursor, Add Empty Event Icon, and so much more that I am not going to re-list.

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bitman wrote on 9/3/2023, 5:39 AM

Does no one else have this problem?

Yes, I have the same problem. Nice explanatory picture for the issue by the way.

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bitman wrote on 9/3/2023, 5:50 AM

I also tried with another picture-in-picture plugin, not from Vegas itself, but the similar called "picture in picture" plugin from newblue FX, and it has the same issue...

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Robert Johnston wrote on 9/3/2023, 8:20 PM

@bitman @Amivideotek @m3lquixd I saw a demonstration a few days ago. Where the demo is I don't remember, maybe in Help. You do a pic-in-pic like you have in past. You put the pic-in-pic fx on the video, not the adjustment event. The Adjustment Event then has some color effect. That color effect then gets applied to both video tracks, so the pic and the pic-in pic both have the same color effect.

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Steve_Rhoden wrote on 9/4/2023, 1:12 AM

Gentlemen, This Adjustment Event issue may have been intentional from the start, however this duplication instead of transparency shortcoming will eventually be ironed out.

Grazie wrote on 9/4/2023, 1:33 AM

....will eventually be ironed out.

Yeah, and as you like it, and until the ironing is completed, more fiddle-faffing about.

3POINT wrote on 11/8/2023, 10:50 AM

Does no one else have this problem?

This is fixed in VEGAS Pro 21 build 187.

IMO not really:

what I would expect:

Former user wrote on 11/8/2023, 11:37 AM

Does no one else have this problem?

This is fixed in VEGAS Pro 21 build 187.

IMO not :

what I would expect:


@3POINT You need to Parent/Child the Adjustment event otherwise it is affecting all the tracks below.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 11/8/2023, 12:14 PM

@3POINT  It is fixed... That is exactly how it is supposed to function. The Dev. team worked tirelessly back and forth to finally get it right.

3POINT wrote on 11/8/2023, 1:35 PM

Does no one else have this problem?

This is fixed in VEGAS Pro 21 build 187.

IMO not :

what I would expect:


@3POINT You need to Parent/Child the Adjustment event otherwise it is affecting all the tracks below.

@Former user you're right, I forgot that the adjustment event effects ALL tracks below.

Amivideotek wrote on 11/8/2023, 2:18 PM

@3POINT Indeed, I saw this also immediately.

The black border is not transparent!!

So, this problem is not solved yet!

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Vegas Pro 20 + Ignite Pro

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Blender 3D (if I have a lot of time)

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CPU : Intel Core i7 @ 2.50GHz
Ram : 32.0GB
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Former user wrote on 11/8/2023, 3:00 PM

You need to Parent/Child the Adjustment event otherwise it is affecting all the tracks below.

@Amivideotek It is!!

Amivideotek wrote on 11/9/2023, 12:57 PM

@Former user Ok, thank you.

Vegas Pro 20 + Ignite Pro

HitFilm Pro 2023.1

Moho Pro 13.5

Luminar Neo

Affinity Photo, Designer and Publisher

Blender 3D (if I have a lot of time)

Operating System : Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU : Intel Core i7 @ 2.50GHz
Ram : 32.0GB
Motherboard : HP 8860 (U3E1)
Graphics : 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti (HP)
Storage :
953GB MTFDHBA1T0QFD-1AX1AABHA (Unknown (SSD)) 
3726GB Seagate ST4000DM004-2CV104 (SATA )
3726GB Western Digital WDC WD40EFZX-68AWUN0 (SATA )
Optical Drives : /
Audio : Realtek High Definition Audio

lan-mLMC wrote on 11/9/2023, 3:16 PM

You need to Parent/Child the Adjustment event otherwise it is affecting all the tracks below.

@Former user Yes, the definition of adjustment layer is to affect all the tracks below, whether in Adobe or Hitfilm or other NLEs. The current Vegas adjustment event is absolutely correct.

Vegas provides Parent/Child that allows users to limit the number of tracks affected. This is the Next Level compared with other NLEs.