Feature Request: Revert to Previous Settings

Len Kaufman wrote on 2/14/2017, 10:33 AM

Here's a feature I'd like to see....unless it's already included but I'm not aware of it. There are some occasions where I've made multiple changes to a project, but I haven't been happy with the result. I would like to be able to hit one button and "revert" to the original state of the last time the project was saved. Those familiar with Photoshop will know what I'm talking about.

Yes, I can "walk back" the various steps I've taken by hitting the "undo" button multiple times, but I find that somewhat unwieldy. Am I alone in this, or are there others who would find this useful?

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Marco. wrote on 2/14/2017, 10:51 AM

You can undo all the steps selected in the undo dropdown-menu, one/many/all steps in one go. Same for the redo.

But this is still different from what you asked for. I would find that very useful, too.

Len Kaufman wrote on 2/14/2017, 11:09 AM

Thank you Marco.

NickHope wrote on 2/14/2017, 11:55 AM

Thanks Marco. I haven't opened those undo and redo dropdowns since I went through the manual 15 years ago! Useful!

Jam_One wrote on 2/14/2017, 12:20 PM

1) Undo - Redo drop-down menus. Pay attention to the Create undos for FX parameter changes checkbox!!!
2) Just reload the funny project, it's the first on the "Recent" list. (OK, that's whole 3 clicks not 1, I admit it.)
3) Use the Backups featurette of Vegasaur.

A plethora of options, anyway.

Len Kaufman wrote on 2/14/2017, 12:42 PM

#2 and #3 above cause a huge loss in time for me, as that involves reloading all of the (many!) files in this video I'm working on. Strange (to me) that "undo all" is way down the drop down menu, so far away from "undo/redo." (which is why I didn't see it previously before Marco mentioned it! LOL)

3POINT wrote on 2/14/2017, 12:46 PM

Here's a feature I'd like to see....unless it's already included but I'm not aware of it. There are some occasions where I've made multiple changes to a project, but I haven't been happy with the result. I would like to be able to hit one button and "revert" to the original state of the last time the project was saved.

Is this requested feature not already included in Edit/Undo All?

monoparadox wrote on 2/14/2017, 1:14 PM

I happen to use Vegasaur but I'm sure other utilities will do this. Set up auto backup and have it do a backup every time you open your file. You can always revert back to that backup and if you have it setup to backup every few minutes (I do every 10) you've got your fanny covered if something goes wrong. It's pulled mine out of the fire a few times.

-- tom

Marco. wrote on 2/14/2017, 1:21 PM

"Is this requested feature not already included in Edit/Undo All?"

Len's proposal is a bit different. The given undo options do not depend on if you saved the project or not. Say you make 7 processes in Vegas Pro, then save the project, then do further 7 processes.
When you undo all now, 14 processes will be undone whereas what Len proposed, 7 processes will be undone.

You could select only 7 processes to undo but how would you know which processes do belong to the state you saved last time? No indication.

"Set up auto backup and have it do a backup every time you open your file. You can always revert back to that backup"

This is different, too, as you would not know which undo processes are included in which backup and you would have to open another project (the backuped one) to make the undos.

So I find what Len proposed is a good idea. It's faster, easier and more clearly arranged as the given methods.

Jam_One wrote on 2/14/2017, 1:27 PM

...You mean "Undo step '-10' while leaving steps '-9' thru '0' intact" ?

A window/panel with list of operations where every one can be "unchecked and reverted" arbitrarily?

This seems to be worth considering...

 

(I just never needed this in my life, so I had to throttle my imagination up.)

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Len Kaufman wrote on 2/14/2017, 1:33 PM

Thanx for elaborating, Marco. I know what I meant; glad to find someone else that knows what I meant! That feature is something I use frequently in Photoshop.

Marco. wrote on 2/14/2017, 1:55 PM

Jam_One, I think it would be even easier.
You mark the point from where you're going into the dark (because from now you don't know if it's good what you gonna do). So mark this point.
Do whatever you want and when you're finished you decide if it is good or bad. You feel you got lost in blackest night? Push one button to be back where you started.
You don't need to know how much steps you did. You marked your start point and you want to be back to this very point, no matter what was between.

Jam_One wrote on 2/14/2017, 2:04 PM

...The whole workflow I am accustomed to is different from "photoshop's" / Corel Draw's one...

Every single "correction" is within a plugin.

----->>>> If I don't like the effect of a certain "correction" I go to that plugin and change its settings.

Jam_One wrote on 2/14/2017, 2:06 PM

You mark the point from where you're going into the dark (because from now you don't know if it's good what you gonna do). So mark this point.
Do whatever you want and when you're finished you decide if it is good or bad. You feel you got lost in blackest night? Push one button to be back where you started.
You don't need to know how much steps you did. You marked your start point and you want to be back to this very point, no matter what was between.

 

That's what the Vegasaur's "Backup" is almost for.

Its only (?) drawback is that it replaces the current project VEG file (sic!) with the content of the selected "backup slot". With no asking you in Microsft's / ELO's style "Are you sure you want to...?" / "Is it what you really want?..."

And I save two copies of my every VEG project file during the editing.

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3POINT wrote on 2/14/2017, 2:18 PM

"Is this requested feature not already included in Edit/Undo All?"

Len's proposal is a bit different. The given undo options do not depend on if you saved the project or not. Say you make 7 processes in Vegas Pro, then save the project, then do further 7 processes.
When you undo all now, 14 processes will be undone whereas what Len proposed, 7 processes will be undone.

You're right, undoing only the last 7 processes of 14 processes with Edit/Undo All option, would require an extra restart of the project, after first saving it after the first 7 processes. This would be the same as when you re-edit a saved project without saving the changes.

Marco. wrote on 2/14/2017, 2:28 PM

"That's what the Vegasaur's "Backup" is almost for."

I just tested. Yes, I think it is. Actually the only drawback I see there is, it is no undo-redo but an undo only. Once you went back, you can't redo (except of going through all the steps again of course). But maybe you wouldn't even need this for cases like this.

Now with this Vegasaur demo the Vegas crew should have a nice guideline. :D

james-ollick wrote on 2/14/2017, 3:16 PM

I just use Ctrl Z as many times as needed to go back.

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Marco. wrote on 2/14/2017, 3:22 PM

Yes, we know this is the common option. But there are other ones, too. And while one option is perfect for the one case, another option is better for the other case.

MartinE wrote on 2/14/2017, 4:06 PM

Hey guys I can't see this Undo thing in my Vegasaur, which tab is it under?

Marco. wrote on 2/14/2017, 4:10 PM

In Vegasaur: Project -> Backups

MartinE wrote on 2/14/2017, 4:28 PM

Got it Marco, thanks but now I need to read the manual!

Marco. wrote on 2/14/2017, 4:33 PM

It's easy. In Vegasaur's Backups tool, click "Back-up" at the moment you want to create a restore point. Then whenever you want, click onto the backup you created (select its name) and click "Restore".

OldSmoke wrote on 2/14/2017, 5:23 PM

Maybe something similar to the NeatVideo plugin that offers "Variants". A feature to store the current project status as a Variant or Version without creating a new project file, tabs on top to switch between different versions.

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