one of major issue is you can't go 'outside' out of the frame locations.

hmmm - needs to be combined if you need the very intensive-specified type animation

What vegas curves lack is being able to hold shift to create them more precisely. And make the keyframe not disappear when the parameter is much higher.

Pan/crop tool is the most confusing tool (for beginners) in Vegas, I hardly use it anymore. I think it will become a deprecated feature one day. All FX/Transitions and Title&Text have the possibility to generate Bezier curves except Pan/crop.

@3POINT I even recommend this script made by @jetdv. You can set a keyboard shortcut to always open PiP instead of pan/crop. It doesn't add several PiP just adds once and next time you just change the parameters.


The only advantage I see in Pan/Crop is that when we "rescale" an element by Pan/Crop it doesn't lose quality because it uses the media resolution. PiP uses Project resolution.

 

The only advantage I see in Pan/Crop is that when we "rescale" an element by Pan/Crop it doesn't lose quality because it uses the media resolution. PiP uses Project resolution.

I'm not sure about that, a compare I once did, didn't show any difference between a PIP extreme zoom-in and a pan/crop extreme zoom-in. AFAIK only Trackmotion uses project resolution.

@3POINT 

This is not true. Well, I don't know exactly if PiP uses the project's resolution, but one thing is for sure and there's no denying it doesn't use the same resolution as the media. As I work with a lot of image elements, things to animate... I've been noticing this for a while. But when I went to animate an image that was quite tall, I came across the problem. I'll send you a project that you can analyze with your own eyes.

I would really like the devs to solve this, at least put an option in the preferences to choose if we want to use the fx with the media resolution or the project resolution.

It still doesn't show up in my extensions in V20, I tried different folder locations and paste methods.
I see it in the V20 script menu, but when I click on it there, I get this:

System.ApplicationException: Failed to create instance of main class: 'EntryPoint'.
   at ScriptPortal.Vegas.ScriptHost.ScriptManager.Run(Assembly asm, String className, String methodName)
   at ScriptPortal.Vegas.ScriptHost.RunScript(Boolean fCompileOnly)

@Mindmatter Dude, I tested it in all these locations and it worked in all of them.

C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Vegas Pro\<version>\Application Extensions\

C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Vegas Pro\<version>\Application Extensions\

C:\ProgramData\Vegas Pro\<version>\Application Extensions\

C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Vegas Pro\Application Extensions\

C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Vegas Pro\Application Extensions\

C:\ProgramData\Vegas Pro\Application Extensions\

great, but what can I say? It doesn't work here.

@Mindmatter Didn't work in any of these locations? Do you have Vegas closed when moving files? And only opening Vegas after moving?

yes and yes. There's something off with V20. I can't get plural eyes 4 to show up either. All I see in extensions is audiosyncR.

@Mindmatter It would be interesting if you test it in another version.

Pan/crop tool is the most confusing tool (for beginners) in Vegas, I hardly use it anymore. I think it will become a deprecated feature one day.

I certainly hope not! I use it on MOST of the videos I do. Not confusing at all. It allows you to CROP just the portion of the video you want to use and also PAN across the video. Hence the name Pan/Crop!

I think people are more confused with Track Motion than Pan/Crop. The new PIP effect is really more of a replacement for Track Motion than Pan/Crop.

And, yes, Pan/Crop uses the full resolution of the image/video where Track Motion does not.

I'm not totally sure where effects fall on using the resolution. It could be that if placed before Pan/Crop they use the full resolution but if placed after they do not...

@Mindmatter It would be interesting if you test it in another version.

won't show up in V19 either.

@Mindmatter please show some screenshots of what you've placed where. If you put the DLL files into the [My Documents]\Vegas Application Extensions then it should load fine. Having said that, I haven't tried that specific custom command - just going by the ones I've written.

I certainly hope not!

As do I. Like @jetdv, I use Pan/Crop in most of my tutorials. Easy to use, and furthermore, Pan/Crop masking is invaluable to me.

@Mindmatter please show some screenshots of what you've placed where. If you put the DLL files into the [My Documents]\Vegas Application Extensions then it should load fine. Having said that, I haven't tried that specific custom command - just going by the ones I've written.

@jetdv Putting the fx before the pan/crop it gets cropped.
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@Jack S About the Pan/Crop masking I agree, I use it a lot, because the bezier masking still has a lot to improve. Ctrl + z doesn't work, you can't delete a point, there's no way to move just one rod to curve... several problems. In addition to being easier to use the Pan/Crop masking since you don't need to mark several options, such as: Edit mode. Bezier masking needs to improve its method, it's weird.

Vegas has to review the method it works with effects, for example when we apply a PiP or a Bezier masking, we cannot move them with the keyboard through the video preview, only with the mouse. And that for me the Pan/Crop takes advantage.

@Mindmatter Dude, I tested it in all these locations and it worked in all of them.

C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Vegas Pro\<version>\Application Extensions\

C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Vegas Pro\<version>\Application Extensions\

C:\ProgramData\Vegas Pro\<version>\Application Extensions\

C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Vegas Pro\Application Extensions\

C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Vegas Pro\Application Extensions\

C:\ProgramData\Vegas Pro\Application Extensions\

 

@Mindmatter I do not know what to say. If it doesn't work in any of these places... And you said that PluralEyes is also gone... It must be something on your PC, I really don't know.

Could someone please give me a hint about what to do to make this extension work in my Vegas? I've tried all the explanations and it still won't appear in extensions.
Thanks!

@Mindmatter Have you tried adding it to the Toolbar?
Options > Customize Toolbar > Vegas Pro Flow > Add.
So with it added just click on the icon.