GH5 HEVC + VP19

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eikira wrote on 8/26/2021, 12:28 AM
 

The file works perfectly fine without Legacy Encoder if you're using proxy.

As one user explained here:

The proxy is an XDCAM File which is more or less the friendliest file to VEGAS. When you hit proxy, then select Preview, VEGAS switches over from the original file itself and onto that XDCAM file. When you hit render, VEGAS throws everything you did to that XDCAM file back at the original then renders.

XDCAM just flies, no matter what settings you have. It just doesn't use them because it doesn't need them.

Sure... but no matter how often you repeat, i dont want to use proxy (btw, the last clip i showed is not with proxies and not with legacy HEVC decoder). I did not pay premium prices for high end computer components to use proxys which i have to switch back and forth all the time if i want to see FX stuff is happening. End of story was and still is, Vegas is just silly not supporting HEVC decoding beside an intel iGPU. This thread has gone way off topic by talking license issues and suggesting all the time to use proxies...
Magix needs to solve that, period.

Richvideo wrote on 8/26/2021, 12:29 AM

i love my AMD 5950x, so much cores so fast encoding with FFMPEG and so much room with resources of multitasking, but it just could not do HEVC in Vegas with the RTX 3080... so i decided for the time being to give up some bitcoin and purchase a new Intel... i did not really want it, but with this little clip shown here, its obvious why i, at the moment, still need Intel QSV decoding.

Its the same clip i posted at the very beginning. but now i could even playback it with a LUT enabled, colorcorrection fx and a very simple contrast added all in 10bit mode...

This is just silly that you cant do that with an overpowering discrete GPU... but whatever...

After much testing and speaking with others in this thread it seems that the Panasonic HEVC files will play fine without GPU help if you have a decent CPU. I have tested it in Resolve (Free) and Adobe Première on the same system and neither of them were using the NVIDIA GPU for the decode but the file played fine in both programs. The issue seems to be that Vegas is not programmed to read the file in a manner that the CPU can play the file properly (Smoothly). In VP19 if you put it into HEVC legacy decode and create a proxy and have the monitor set to preview quality that is the only way to get the file to play smooth enough to work with but it is disappointing that you need to go through that just to get a common pro codec type to play in Vegas.

The file works perfectly fine without Legacy Encoder if you're using proxy.

As one user explained here:

The proxy is an XDCAM File which is more or less the friendliest file to VEGAS. When you hit proxy, then select Preview, VEGAS switches over from the original file itself and onto that XDCAM file. When you hit render, VEGAS throws everything you did to that XDCAM file back at the original then renders.

XDCAM just flies, no matter what settings you have. It just doesn't use them because it doesn't need them.
 

I stand corrected, you are right Mohammed the proxy works in the standard HEVC decode mode in Vegas 19, thank you for the correction.





 

 

Richvideo wrote on 8/26/2021, 12:33 AM
 

The file works perfectly fine without Legacy Encoder if you're using proxy.

As one user explained here:

The proxy is an XDCAM File which is more or less the friendliest file to VEGAS. When you hit proxy, then select Preview, VEGAS switches over from the original file itself and onto that XDCAM file. When you hit render, VEGAS throws everything you did to that XDCAM file back at the original then renders.

XDCAM just flies, no matter what settings you have. It just doesn't use them because it doesn't need them.

Sure... but no matter how often you repeat, i dont want to use proxy (btw, the last clip i showed is not with proxies and not with legacy HEVC decoder). I did not pay premium prices for high end computer components to use proxys which i have to switch back and forth all the time if i want to see FX stuff is happening. End of story was and still is, Vegas is just silly not supporting HEVC decoding beside an intel iGPU. This thread has gone way off topic by talking license issues and suggesting all the time to use proxies...
Magix needs to solve that, period.

I agree even if they cannot get the GPU acceleration to work with the file at least make the playback work with a decent CPU (12 core and higher) as it does in Resolve and Adobe Première with no proxies.

RogerS wrote on 8/26/2021, 1:42 AM

I recommend putting feature requests in that thread so it doesn't get lost.

Mohammed_Anis wrote on 8/26/2021, 3:33 AM
Sure... but no matter how often you repeat, i dont want to use proxy (btw, the last clip i showed is not with proxies and not with legacy HEVC decoder). I did not pay premium prices for high end computer components to use proxys which i have to switch back and forth all the time if i want to see FX stuff is happening. End of story was and still is, Vegas is just silly not supporting HEVC decoding beside an intel iGPU. This thread has gone way off topic by talking license issues and suggesting all the time to use proxies...
Magix needs to solve that, period.


@eikira

The message was clearly quoted to someone else.

I'm correcting technical information for the benefit of those who read this conversation.

In what kind of regard you hold VEGAS or how you wish to pursue your editing or commit your money is not my business.

 

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eikira wrote on 8/26/2021, 3:52 AM
 

@eikira

The message was clearly quoted to someone else.

Sure, still i started this thread and it was very clear what this is all about. Which does not change, that your talking points are to pretty much anybody in my thread 'proxy it' and 'licenses'...


I'm correcting technical information for the benefit of those who read this conversation.

Sure. And the conversation belongs only to you right...

In what kind of regard you hold VEGAS or how you wish to pursue your editing or commit your money is not my business.

On that you are correct, its none of your business but still you involved yourself into the thread with a more or less very clear message started by me, so you will not be just completely overlooked with any of your statements, which means you will get reactions, especially when you try to go a bit to off my initial thoughts and the reasons of this thread and giving for Vegas all the time the same excuses and pseudo solutions...

Mohammed_Anis wrote on 8/26/2021, 5:44 AM
 

@eikira

The message was clearly quoted to someone else.

Sure, still i started this thread and it was very clear what this is all about. Which does not change, that your talking points are to pretty much anybody in my thread 'proxy it' and 'licenses'...


I'm correcting technical information for the benefit of those who read this conversation.

Sure. And the conversation belongs only to you right...

In what kind of regard you hold VEGAS or how you wish to pursue your editing or commit your money is not my business.

On that you are correct, its none of your business but still you involved yourself into the thread with a more or less very clear message started by me, so you will not be just completely overlooked with any of your statements, which means you will get reactions, especially when you try to go a bit to off my initial thoughts and the reasons of this thread and giving for Vegas all the time the same excuses and pseudo solutions...


Mate...

No. The conversation does not exclusively belong to me, but it is rather confusing when you refer to me as being repetitive on a particular subject as if I'm insisting that this is how you should do things when I'm correcting someone ELSE's misunderstanding on Proxy.. Responding to the other gentleman and me clarifying that it wasn't directed to you is precisely why the conversation doesn't belong to me.

Regarding your post, my input was clear conjecture and speculation, and I've clarified as much.

Finally, when I first mentioned Proxy, I genuinely asked if its an option you would consider after I showed you the video. Ever since then, the conversation trailed off. I have no idea what you're on about

But I sense that this is getting a tad too personal for you, so I'll stop here.

Thank you for bringing up the topic about HEVC.