I make my living in video production,I stay in business making informed decisions on equipment purchases which help us stay current and efficient ,.not by making fanboy purchases

I agree it's not about the money but it is about confidence in the product and the company behind it. The lack of professionalism shown so far does make me wonder if this would be a good time to consider other video editing software.

We've had an ambiguous email offer only received by some owners of Vegas suggesting you 'upgrade' to the version you already have followed by a member of staff telling people not to take it but to wait for another one. That other offer turns out to cost more which together with confusion over what's the new price, what's an upgrade and time limits on the offers suggests some internal communication problems at least.

It also appears those that did pay for the upgrade haven't necessarily received them as yet which should have been possible to organise if you're in control of the launch date.

As you say for most people Vegas 13 is still perfectly usable so it's not so much a case of worrying about paying $50 more for 14 but the option of putting the full $250 towards something else.

If the current problems are indicative of future trouble then it would only be sensible to think about moving to other software whilst you have the time to make a smooth transition rather than being forced to later on.

In the end it is not about $50. It is about proffessionality. There is really nothing professional about the launch of V14. It is a mess based on the lack of clear communication ending in frustration for a lot of people. This is not professional at all. This puts a shadow over all the efforts in developing a new version of the software and the team in which the whole community trusts.

This is what makes people/customers hesitate and think about their relationship to the new owner of Vegas. 

There would habe been a much better way to handle this.

I'll gladly pay whatever it costs to keep the program alive and going.  I'd pay even more if they made it so that it could actually export to DaVinci Resolve and Pro Tools.  I have never had success with that and usually when i move from Pre production to Post produciton I have to spend a lot of time converting the projects.  That said, the time i save in pre producition is worth it to stick with vegas.

What I would really like to see is some better authentication efforts to protect their work.  I wonder how many illegal copies of Vegas there are out there.  I saw a couple colleagues the other day (loose colleagues, not friends) who both had a copy of Vegas that they used for YouTube editors.  They said they just pulled it free from a torrent site.

If you think about how many YouTube creators there are probably using the illegal version of Vegas I can imagine that's where all the dev money has gone.

It seems like Adobe finally got ahead of their piracy curve by making creative cloud and subscription, then making rapid releases with small incremental changes.  When i asked these same two editors about adobe, they said they used to pirate it, but because the rapid release means doing another install 3x per year (the newest Premiere cannot be opened by the last one, and so on...), It was just more time efficient to spend the $50/month.

Sony got caught with their pants down mid cycle, and missed a chance to bring Vegas mainstream when FCP lost their foothold in the pro sector. 

Rapid release = steady cash flow = better program = more users = bigger cash flow = more rapid releases = more users, etc.

And this program has to become OSX friendly if it ever wants to survive long term.

Just my 2 cents.

chap

@ chap - started off using dnxhd 185 for bouncing between vegas <> resolve but have now started using xavc-i and am very happy with it...

sorry there old chap ;-) didn't catch on you were talking tl...

has anyone been able to push a timeline to resolve and protools?

I think Vegas Pro should continue to move forward for the professionals using it. Improve stability, pro format support, GPU-rendering, and so forth. Then charge for it. For those of us who use Vegas Pro daily doing film commercially, earning money, with paying customers, 50$ more or less is nothing. The 249 or 349 for the suite is much less than what Adobe subscribers pay every year. Now it has been more than two years since Vegas 13 came so we have saved quite a bit of money.

What we professionals need is the best tools available to get the work done, quickly and professionally. The extra 50$ or so disappears into oblivion just minutes after payment, or when the next customer pays the invoice and is happy with the professional video we did using Vegas Pro.

 

Not all of us are professionals. I do it because I like it, but I demand the professional versions because what I do I do it well and the features I want are not in the Studio versions. $50 may be chump change to some, but for me it's a lot. When I worked I didn't think twice about shelling out $600 for software but I'm retired now and I edit because it's what I enjoy doing. $50 may be the determining factor for some on wheather to upgrade or wait for a better price later.

For sure the communication was not a lucky one.

But it is not valid to use the communication flaws to assess if Magix is committed to continue the development of the product. I think they are commited to do so and we have to assume that they will continue here, otherwise the purchase of Vegas would not have made sense.

So what I will like to see is that the development team can continue to improve Vegas. I have also Edius here, but Vegas is still my favorite. And I like to see that Vegas becomes more and more professional, now supporting ProRes but also the UHD resolution available by Deckink 4K cards. That is great for me (and I do not earn my money from my video activities).

They need a higher price to maintain Vegas I think, and that is ok for me. The 50$ is not even worth the discussion.

I dropped the full $800 on the suite. I don't regret my purchase. While there are areas I do wish they had taken more time on (GPU support should have been a primary focus), I am excited about the new possibilities this software has provided me with. I also am loving how the most annoying bugs Vegas had in the past (for me) have been fixed. 

I am happy Magix ended up with it. WAY better than Sony ever was with it.