GPU options

Neel wrote on 7/20/2023, 10:24 AM

Hi all

I'm running Vegas Pro 19 on my i7-7700, 32 GB RAM, GTX 1650 Super with a lot of 4K content.

My current client is asking for NVEC (H.265) renders, but I find that rendering to H.265 is way slower than rendering to H.264. Someone told me if I swap my video card for an RTX-3060 I'll get much improved performance.

My full PC specs here: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/Atk2LG2xUzW3O4ZT5S0N3Bn

Any truth to this?

Thanks

Neel

Comments

edoardo-l wrote on 7/20/2023, 10:32 AM

You can see here some benchmarks:

https://techgage.com/article/rdna2-for-workstation-amd-radeon-pro-w6600-w6800-review/3/

Video workstation: Ryzen 5950X - Asrock X470 Taichi - 64 Gb ram DDR4 3200 C16 - Sapphire RX 7800 XT- WD Black Nvme - RME AIO soundcard

Panasonic cameras (G9 - GH5M2 - GX80) Schoeps, Neumann & Milab microphones - RME UFX & UCX

Vegas Pro 18 - 22

Neel wrote on 7/20/2023, 10:38 AM

Thanks, that's interesting. I guess the lowly GTX cards don't even factor into the benchmarks LOL

 

Intel i7-7700 on Gigabyte H270-HD3, 16 GB DDR4, Onboard Intel HD 630 Graphics, 1 TB nVME (system and current video projects), 6 TB hard drive (documents, etc), Windows 10 Home, Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 16

john_dennis wrote on 7/20/2023, 10:54 AM

An aside:

Your 65 Watt processor is six years old.

Neel wrote on 7/20/2023, 12:20 PM

An aside:

Your 65 Watt processor is six years old.

True, do you think that will be my bottleneck in terms of performance?

 

Intel i7-7700 on Gigabyte H270-HD3, 16 GB DDR4, Onboard Intel HD 630 Graphics, 1 TB nVME (system and current video projects), 6 TB hard drive (documents, etc), Windows 10 Home, Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 16

john_dennis wrote on 7/20/2023, 12:28 PM

It probably will be when you get a more capable GPU. Check Vegas requirements and see if 6 or more cores is recommended for 4K content.

Former user wrote on 7/20/2023, 12:38 PM

@Neel @john_dennis Hi, Vegas requirements, (prob min spec requirements)

@Neel If you can fit a new GPU in & try it see how it does no harm's done, if it's no good you've got a decent card to put in a new PC,

Neel wrote on 7/20/2023, 8:26 PM

Thanks Gid. I may have to look at a new CPU/RAM/Mobo combo, that may be better bang for my buck.

 

Intel i7-7700 on Gigabyte H270-HD3, 16 GB DDR4, Onboard Intel HD 630 Graphics, 1 TB nVME (system and current video projects), 6 TB hard drive (documents, etc), Windows 10 Home, Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 16

Former user wrote on 7/20/2023, 8:28 PM

An aside:

Your 65 Watt processor is six years old.

True, do you think that will be my bottleneck in terms of performance?

Not in this example. That's the point of hardware encoders. I don't think CPU or GPU (processing) should go up when changing from Nvenc H.264 to Nvenc H.265, Vegas renders the frames, NVENC encodes them. Your encoder I think is the same as that in the rtx 3060. So that is strange, when I had an rtx3080 I don't recall there being a dramatic slow down when encoding H.265 compared to H.264.

Are you sure you're using the identical settings in Vegas encoder settings only changing between Nvenc H.264 and H.265?

Maybe it actually is the case H.265 NVENC on 1650super is much slower, I know there's active users on this forum with your same card, they could test that idea

fr0sty wrote on 7/20/2023, 9:59 PM

Is the OP actually using NVENC in order to compress the HEVC video? If using Mainconcept (CPU), it will definitely render much slower.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Neel wrote on 7/21/2023, 10:03 AM

@Neel @john_dennis Hi, Vegas requirements, (prob min spec requirements)

@Neel If you can fit a new GPU in & try it see how it does no harm's done, if it's no good you've got a decent card to put in a new PC,

Strange, they say minumum 7th-gen processor with 8 cores, but the 7-gen Intel's max out at 4 cores, AFAIK.

7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7 Processors Product Specifications

 

Intel i7-7700 on Gigabyte H270-HD3, 16 GB DDR4, Onboard Intel HD 630 Graphics, 1 TB nVME (system and current video projects), 6 TB hard drive (documents, etc), Windows 10 Home, Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 16

Neel wrote on 7/21/2023, 10:19 AM

Is the OP actually using NVENC in order to compress the HEVC video? If using Mainconcept (CPU), it will definitely render much slower.

Thanks so much, this is certainly the case. Using the Intel encoder, this 90 second video took over 2 hours to render. Using NVENC with my Geforce GTX 1650 Super, it rendered in 4 minutes 22 seconds. The difference is huge....

 

Intel i7-7700 on Gigabyte H270-HD3, 16 GB DDR4, Onboard Intel HD 630 Graphics, 1 TB nVME (system and current video projects), 6 TB hard drive (documents, etc), Windows 10 Home, Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 16

Former user wrote on 7/21/2023, 11:38 AM

@Neel @john_dennis Hi, Vegas requirements, (prob min spec requirements)

@Neel If you can fit a new GPU in & try it see how it does no harm's done, if it's no good you've got a decent card to put in a new PC,

Strange, they say minumum 7th-gen processor with 8 cores, but the 7-gen Intel's max out at 4 cores, AFAIK.

7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7 Processors Product Specifications


@Neel Yeah it reads like that but I think they are just ref to CPU's in general when they mention 8 cores, it could've been written better to show that they're not putting the two, i7 & 8cores, together.