Graphics card choice

NicoI wrote on 11/19/2017, 4:50 PM

Hello, I am getting a 4K monitor, but I run an old dinosaur of a PC running VP14. It could barely playback 4K and renders relatively slow. I will upgrade to a better workstation, but I want to get a graphics card I will eventually move to a newer PC. I was looking at the Quadro P400 or the GTX 1050 Ti, but my PC has PCIe 2.0 and these cards have 3.0. I will eventually upgrade to Vegas 15 and to my knowledge these cards will benefit from the new encoder. Would the 2.0 bottleneck with these cards? Would I see any benefit of playback or rendering with these cards? Lastly, would these cards on my PC output 4K? My current editing style is stop-and-go where I pause a frame and grade with it paused at the highest preview quality. I will find specs ASAP, but the model is a Dell T5500 and one processor is missing. Sorry for the lack of info. At work right now.

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john_dennis wrote on 11/19/2017, 4:53 PM

Read topic 18 in this thread.

NicoI wrote on 11/19/2017, 5:01 PM

Thanks for the post! It is very helpful. Looks like either of these cards should work. I am still unsure if it would affect my preview speed and quality. With my ol 512MB, it obviously would be very choppy. The closest thing I can find with preview in the article is NVIDIA 3D Vision live preview. I have no clue what that is. The cards should still output a 4K signal regardless of PCIe 2.0 right?

Kinvermark wrote on 11/19/2017, 5:12 PM

The unfortunate reality right now is that we don't know whether to go with AMD or NVIDIA. AMD used to be the preferred choice for Vegas, but with Vegas 15 they have added performance improvements that rely on NVIDIA tech, and only promised unspecified improvements in the future for AMD tech. My suggestion is to wait, or to buy something cheap. ish.

NicoI wrote on 11/19/2017, 6:38 PM

Thanks, I was looking at the P400 because it has 3 mini DP connections. It says it can accept well above 4K resolution, but I am not sure if PCIe 2.0 would affect it's ability to do so. I want to eventually work with a 3 monitor setup and it is only $120 at B&H. Good enough price for me.

NickHope wrote on 11/19/2017, 8:17 PM

+1 what Kinvermark said for VP15.

For VP14, AMD is generally a better choice than Nvidia if you want to use GPU acceleration of video processing. See the list in section 1b of the thread john_dennis linked to for some pointers.

NicoI wrote on 11/19/2017, 8:58 PM

I was giving thought about AMD, but since I plan on upgrading to 15 soon, maybe early next year, I am aiming to buy NVIDIA according to the thread supplied. My major concern again is if PCIe 2.0 will affect a 3.0s ability to preview faster with less lag and the ability to allow 4K resolution on my incoming monitor. Just so long as it does not drastically slow down rendering on my 14 before I upgrade to 15, to me the current importance is if it can help with preview lag and 4K res on my T5500.

liork wrote on 11/20/2017, 3:58 AM

Don't forget you need at least 4GB GPU memory. A card with only 2GB memory is not enough for 4K NVENC rendering.

Mister Mahler wrote on 12/2/2017, 7:15 AM

Fine if we could get latest update/opinions on this topic. I am on the market for a slim-line, one unit, GPU to replace my wayyy to big GTX950,.. in my Z97/4790K system, and a 43" Phillips Monitor to be driven at 4K / 60hz. Video camera will foremost be Panasonic FZ300, up to 4K, and some old GoPro. I do 90 pct music and photo, but bought Vegas 14 to be updated to 15 later, and will do a little video every now and then, my question should considered in this context. I am looking into P400, but noticed P600, and P1000 as well being slimline. P1000 got 4GB, but unfortunately is to expensive it seems. Main difference seems to be amount of cuda-cores as far as I can tell, but don't know how much emphasis to put on that. I will order a new card later today, or tomorrow,.. Any opinions and adwise is very welcome :-)

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Mister Mahler wrote on 12/3/2017, 4:57 AM

Never mind, I will order in a few moments, without taking Vegas into consideration. Been away for a while, but Just been having a look around this forum, and there is still so many important new and old issues with Vegas that I don't believe I will even install and try it out any time soon. My time is simply to pressures for fighting and being test-rabbit for something that seems to mature far to slow, sorry to say. Maybe version 16, 17, or 18,... Also its needed, but ignored,  that customers can get a clear answer as to what hardware they intend to support, in both medio and long term, to many loose ends,.. Most likely it will be Premiere insteadt, but I will then have a look back here in 12-18 mounths from now. Hope my money for version 14 is not totally wasted obviously.