Great news from MAGIX!


LongTallTexan wrote on 5/26/2016, 11:38 AM
Great news. I've been with Vegas since V2. Have been holding my breath these last few months knowing something big was coming down the pipe. This has been an exciting few days and I find myself re-energized about the future of Vegas. Looking forward to seeing Vegas mature further.
ddm wrote on 5/26/2016, 12:14 PM
Wow. And here I was, already in the 5th stage of grief. Rarely has the fate of a mere piece of software brought about such anxiety. Evaluating all the options out there lately, it became ever clearer what a great piece of work Vegas is. It's a good day, indeed.
jwcarney wrote on 5/26/2016, 12:50 PM
Great news. I was about to remove all Sony software from my systems in the next few weeks. I have Acid Pro 6, Sound Forge 11 and the Vegas Pro 13 stuff. Glad I don't have to give up my favorite tools.
Christian de Godzinsky wrote on 5/26/2016, 12:54 PM

Thanks to you both, JR and GARY!

Its highly appreciated that you shine some informative light on us! It would still be prudent and a respectful gesture if someone at SCS (or whatever is left of it) would come out with an official announcement - this is after all - their own forum! I'll bet that will never happen, why should they care anymore?

They should at least inform us what will happen to this forum and the huge knowledgebase it contains? How long will SCS continue to host it? Will MAGIX just start a fresh Vegas forum? Why not cut all unnecessary speculations at once with some information? Hard to believe that this detail wouldn't already be agreed upon and defined in the already signed contracts...

It will be interesting to see what happens (with time); will MAGIX's own video editor merge into Vegas - or vice versa? Why should they (in the long run) have TWO competing products on sale, to support, to develop and to debug? Both apps have features the other is lacking... And both are trying to achieve the same - great video editing! MAGIX might be an excellent new family for VP, but will all members be treated equally if all survive? Adoption is not always a success. I wouldn't have anything against if the programs merge - keeping the best features of both... However, merging code can be very hard or even impossible so some serious rewriting is surely required.

Don't get me wrong - I am very glad that specifically MAGIX bought Vegas and the other stuff. Good news is also that Gary is a part of the deal, as some vital coders from SCS.



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K-Decisive wrote on 5/26/2016, 1:43 PM
Really wish Autodesk would have done this with XSI (sold it to someone) instead of EOL.

Maybe Magix could buy that too, get into the 3D market ...;) Dreaming.....

heg wrote on 5/26/2016, 4:19 PM
Wow! This are excelent news indeed! Thanks for sharing the info JR
JohnnyRoy wrote on 5/26/2016, 7:01 PM
You are all welcome but the thanks goes to Gary and really to MAGIX for allowing him to speak freely with me and to extend that to the community which speaks volumes for how they respect their customers. Like I said... Great news from MAGIX! :-D

VMP wrote on 5/26/2016, 9:40 PM
Thank you John and Gary!

I have met Gary and other team members once at IBC (I believe it was back in 2006).

I got a goody bag personally from Gary including a SCS T-shirt, I still treasure it!
I still brag about it to my friends :-p.

I am not sure if it was Eric, but I had some idea swapping with one of the members to enhance the marketing for Vegas.

At the end of the day they had a quiz and I won a copy of Vegas because I answered all the questions right.

Looking forward to meeting them the next time at IBC then they'll be MAGIX.

Even though I am in my eary 30's I have been a Vegas users since version 3, and this forum user since 2002.

How I came to know about the software (then Sonic Foundry) might be interesting for the MAGIX marketing department too.

I got the free Acid Express software with the CD drive that I bought back then.
MAGIX could do something similar to let Acid and Vegas get known.

Here is hoping that MAGIX will finally update Acid Pro 7 after 6 years, 64 bit version will be welcomed by all.
This update has been requested by Acid users and fans from around the world.


set wrote on 5/26/2016, 10:01 PM
The closest Broadcast Expo I have in Asia / South East Asia continent is BroadcastAsia in Singapore.

Love to see Magix be present in future BroadcastAsia expo :)

Or perhaps open a branch at least in Singapore or Hong Kong ? :)

FixitMad0 wrote on 5/26/2016, 10:29 PM
JohnnyRoy and Gary,

Thanks for the Great News! I'm Super Excited to see what comes with this transition. Heres hoping that ACID, Vegas, Sound Forge and the Loops and Samples continue to be built on and updated.

Thanks for sharing!
rstrong wrote on 5/26/2016, 11:44 PM
Wow, this is really great to hear. Thanks so much to Gary, John and everyone involved.


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Guy S. wrote on 5/27/2016, 12:31 AM
Tim Stannard wrote on 5/27/2016, 3:22 AM
I really have nothing to add, but just feel a need to add my enthusiasm and optimism to that which has already been expressed here and elsewhere.

And what a brilliant move by MAGIX to allow Gary to speak let us know something of what's going on. And Eric's statement was also very positive.The cynic in me says it's just marketing and no doubt it is partly about marketing, but I can;t see anyone objecting to the positive messages being sent out from MAGIX.

All this positivity - it's like being part of a Jon Anderson lyric.

Good luck to all involved in the new Vegas/DVDA/SoundForge/ACID projects at MAGIX. I'll be happy to put some money back into the coffers in return for yor further investment.

[Edit] And it's not just the products that make it so good it's the developers of the add-ons as well (and of course the great people on forums such as this). Although only a small-time amateur user, on the few occasions I've needed support i've received personal replies from both John Rofrano and Edward Troxel. It makes me feel loved :)
Barry W. Hull wrote on 5/27/2016, 8:10 AM
Thank you JR, Gary and Eric.
ECB wrote on 5/27/2016, 9:07 AM
Great news!

Thank you JR, Gary, and Eric!

You answered a lot of my questions.

Ed B

Tim L wrote on 5/27/2016, 10:52 AM
My apologies if this has already been posted. I scanned several threads and did not see it. The Sony press release answers a lot of questions.

Note: It is dated May 20, but I'm sure it must have just gone up recently, in the last day or two?

Edit: Note that it also clarifies that Spectralayers Pro, and sound loops and production music, etc., are part of the deal.
Parallax Abstraction wrote on 5/28/2016, 4:02 PM
I only know MAGIX for some of their somewhat lame consumer music products but if this acquisition means that Vegas Pro will continue to get developed and that we can get some real, meaningful updates to it (like newer codec support and CUDA rendering assistance that works with GPUs newer than the 500 series), I'm all for it. Putting a premium on "future development" and "community feedback" are the same things every company says so the proof will be in the pudding but it's clear MAGIX wants to make a bigger push into the prosumer sector and well, they can't do much less than Sony has with Vegas Pro in the last while which is nothing at all. I'm cautiously optimistic. :)
Radio Guy wrote on 5/28/2016, 8:08 PM
Great news! I have used Magic's Xara Designer Pro for as long as Vegas Pro since Version 8 and each version is bigger and better so I hope that's what will happen in the Video arena as well. I dropped Vegas since 12 as it just wouldn't work right anymore. Now things should get interesting.
PixelStuff wrote on 5/29/2016, 12:14 PM
@Parallax Abstraction -- I'm particularly hoping for better CUDA support also.

In 2014, right after the GTX 980 was released, I submitted a suggestion to SCS stating that while a universal OpenCL api might have been theoretically ideal, the reality is that it has basically just turned into the AMD api. Given that nVidia is generally the flagship GPU manufacturer SCS should really work on implementing CUDA support in Vegas Pro, especially with the performance gains realized in the 980. Now looking at the newest GTX 1080, it reinforces that idea.

So hopefully MAGIX will realize the problem with supporting OpenCL exclusively, and hopefully the can allocate the resources to fix it.
chap wrote on 5/29/2016, 2:25 PM
Well, this is great and interesting news!

If they want the software to remain relevant, hopefully MAGIX will:

-Change the name of the software (to something that doesn't stink like the rotten city in Nevada, and actually sounds like a video editing program)
-Make it cross platform. No software can be relevant if it is PC-only anymore.

Here's to a (hopefully) bright future with MAGIX.

Vidmist54 wrote on 5/29/2016, 2:35 PM
Unfortunately, I do not have the same level of trust for a company I know little about. Too many times have I seen great software taken over by another company and you never see it again. Examples include Altimira Composer and another high end graphics program I used a lot just a few years ago. Most likely I will be removing my Vegas Pro, DVD Architect, Acid, and Sound Forge applications. I'll probably sign on to Adobe and their products. Your post sounds good, but the companies that took over my other software said the same thing and now none of it exists anymore. The way I see it, they just eliminate the competition for their own products. I will give the benefit of a doubt, time will tell. But I feel the need to go ahead with my Adobe learning curve and be prepared for the end anyway.

That being said, my best wishes to the new owners.
jwcarney wrote on 5/29/2016, 7:15 PM
Vidmist54...I owned an early version of Xara when it was an independent company. It was one of my favorite vector apps for graphic design (back when Adobe products cost an arm and a leg). The fact that it is still around more than 16 years later tells me Magix doesn't just maintain the app , they improve it. So I'm hopeful. The problem I see is they need to increase their presence in the USA.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 5/30/2016, 8:02 AM
> "Too many times have I seen great software taken over by another company and you never see it again"

We can all reference stories of catastrophic failures. We can also list success stories. Let's look at the facts as we know them:

1) Sony bought Sonic Foundry and it was a success story. Vegas continued to be developed from Vegas 4 to Vegas Pro 13.

2) MAGIX has hired some of the old Sonic Foundry team from Sony to continue to develop Vegas Pro for them. Why would they do that just to kill it? That makes no business sense.

I have every reason to believe that Vegas Pro will flourish under MAGIX's ownership. They have Gary Rebholz as the Product Owner. Gary wouldn't sign on to a new company to kill his own product. I get that there is fear and uncertainty, but when people you know and trust are at the helm, you have to put your trust somewhere. If the original people from Sonic Foundry weren't involved, I would be very skeptical too. I trust that Gary will lead Vegas Pro in the right direction.

My development experience has taught me that when you acquire a technology and the people don't come with it, you just threw your money away because the intellectual property lies in the people who built the technology, not the technology itself. MAGIX obviously understands this which leads me to believe that they know what they are doing.

This is what many of you asked for. i.e., you posted that if Sony was shifting their focus to Catalyst Suite and not developing Vegas Pro anymore, please sell it to a company that will continue to enhance it. Well... your wishes were granted. This is about as good an outcome as you could have hoped for under the circumstances.

It's a new chapter in the continuing story of Vegas Pro. Let's give it a chance to unfold.