HEVC 10-Bit 422 and 420: Howsit Going, Magix [434 update below]?

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RogerS wrote on 2/12/2021, 7:12 PM

No GPU decoding support is a GPU limitation. I would expect more Vegas support for HEVC types going forward. The a7sIII is newer than VP 18 and Magix isn't the only company playing catch up.

AVsupport wrote on 2/12/2021, 8:08 PM

No GPU decoding support is a GPU limitation. ..

HEVC 10-Bit 420 can be decoded by my nVidia 1060GTC/6GB. Unfortunately VP isn't using it during timeline playback. That's a Software limitation. And not Loading files and Importing is also a Software limitation.

 

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 2/15/2021, 6:07 PM

@AVsupport I don't think your inability to decode 4k hvec 10-bit 420 on your timeline is a general thing... because I've been shooting that all the time lately with my zcam e2 and have been doing well with Vegas ever since I first tried it with v16. Fwiw, I generally get best results decoding with an Intel igpu but occasionally have to use amd or nvidia without issue other than slightly lower performance.

AVsupport wrote on 2/15/2021, 6:28 PM

Hi @Howard-Vigorita, I have my Intel iGPU disabled in Bios ever since this was causing instabilities a few versions ago. My nVidia is much more potent and I wish VP would use it for timeline acceleration

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

AVsupport wrote on 4/7/2021, 9:49 PM

FYI,

Here's a 'screen recording' with my iphone Resolve Studio playing back HEVC 10-Bit 4K 422 and 420 on my system, including applying the official Sony SLOG3.cine > s709 LUT.

Yes, initially it takes a little while for the red bars to disappear, but the system chews through it allright and plays back fine:

 

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 4/8/2021, 8:55 AM

If you've still got that Intel igpu disabled, you're shooting yourself in the foot. You'll definitely get better performance using it for decoding in Vegas. And probably in Resolve Studio too... I've only been able to test with the free version which is limited to a single gpu. I've always gotten poor results using Intel hd630 as a primary gpu for both Vegas and Resolve so I avoid that. Might be changing, however. Don't know if that pertains to either the new Intel hd750 (Iris/Xe) or the Intel Iris Xe Max which show up as separate gpus in some new laptops... I think @Marco. has been playing with one of those.

edit: Thanks, @vkmast ... managed to correct the tag

Last changed by Howard-Vigorita on 4/8/2021, 10:04 AM, changed a total of 4 times.

Cameras: Z-Cam E2 classic, Canon XF305, JVC GV-LS2, Canon 6D w/L-glass line.
Laptop: Dell XPS15-9570; i7-8750h 32gb (integrated Intel UHD-630 & Nvidia GTX-1050Ti)
Road: Intel NUC i7 8809g 32gb (integrated AMD VegaM 4gb graphics & Intel HD630)
Workstation: i9 9900k 32 gb (Sapphire AMD Radeon VII 16gb graphics & integrated Intel UHD630)
Workstation2: e5 1650v4 128 gb (Sapphire Nitro+ RX5700xt Navi & Nvidia GTX-1660 8gb graphics)
Workstation3: i7-980X 24gb (Sapphire Nitro+ Vega64 8gb graphics)
currently Vegas 17.452 & Vegas 18.434

Red Car & Pip Benchmarks: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TK2lyFZSlzU9JQ8xO1mvoj-zl9tyj2lc?usp=sharing

vkmast wrote on 4/8/2021, 9:18 AM

Marcus is/was a contributor from NB. You mean Marco. who is hard to tag if he's not posted on the same page earlier.

@Howard-Vigorita

AVsupport wrote on 4/8/2021, 9:27 AM

well that was pretty much the proof in the pudding that I can quite happily play back those files and grade without a problem, with my slow intel 630 disabled, and leverage my fast RAM and other resources; just not in VP it seems, sadly.

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.