HEVC plug to decode MPEG-2 in Program Stream (.mpg) ?

john_dennis wrote on 8/2/2023, 7:10 PM

@VEGASDerek

This situation looks counterintuitive to me.

Source File:

General
Complete name                            : \\P8Z77\2023-08-02-0.mpg
Format                                   : MPEG-PS
File size                                : 4.40 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 1 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 10.2 Mb/s
Frame rate                               : 59.940 FPS
Movie name                               : GMA3: WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW
Law rating                               : None

Video
ID                                       : 224 (0xE0)
Format                                   : MPEG Video
Commercial name                          : HDV 720p
Format version                           : Version 2
Format profile                           : Main@High
Format settings                          : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
Format settings, Matrix                  : Custom
Format settings, GOP                     : Variable
Duration                                 : 1 h 1 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 9 394 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 17.6 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Active Format Description                : Full frame 16:9 image
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.170
Time code of first frame                 : 15:05:03;07
Time code source                         : Group of pictures header
GOP, Open/Closed                         : Open
Stream size                              : 4.07 GiB (92%)

Audio #1
ID                                       : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Muxing mode                              : DVD-Video
Duration                                 : 1 h 1 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 384 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : 4 ms
Stream size                              : 170 MiB (4%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

Audio #2
ID                                       : 189 (0xBD)-129 (0x81)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Muxing mode                              : DVD-Video
Duration                                 : 1 h 1 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : 4 ms
Stream size                              : 85.1 MiB (2%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

Text #1
ID                                       : 224 (0xE0)-CC1
Format                                   : EIA-608
Muxing mode                              : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info                   : Muxed in Video #1
Duration                                 : 1 h 1 min
Duration of the visible content          : 1 h 1 min
Start time (commands)                    : 9 s 693 ms
Start time                               : 9 s 726 ms
End time                                 : 1 h 1 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Stream size                              : 0.00 Byte (0%)
Type of the first event                  : RollUp

Text #2
ID                                       : 224 (0xE0)-CC3
Format                                   : EIA-608
Muxing mode                              : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info                   : Muxed in Video #1
Duration                                 : 1 h 1 min
Start time (commands)                    : 5 s 38 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Stream size                              : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #3
ID                                       : 224 (0xE0)-1
Format                                   : EIA-708
Muxing mode                              : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info                   : Muxed in Video #1
Duration                                 : 1 h 1 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Stream size                              : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #4
ID                                       : 224 (0xE0)-3
Format                                   : EIA-708
Muxing mode                              : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info                   : Muxed in Video #1
Duration                                 : 1 h 1 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Stream size                              : 0.00 Byte (0%)

is decoded by

General
  Name: 2023-08-02-0.mpg
  Folder: \\P8Z77\z77 G WD-8TB1\General Hospital
  Type: MAGIX MPEG
  Size: 4.62 GB (4,726,761,472 bytes)
  Created: Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 3:05:47 PM
  Modified: Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 3:06:32 PM
  Accessed: Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 4:42:06 PM
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 01:01:57.414, 59.940 fps progressive, 1280x720x32, MPEG
  Audio: 01:01:57.413, 48,000 Hz, Stereo, AC-3 2.0

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: mxhevcplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 20.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mxhevcplug
  Format: MAGIX MPEG
  Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

and only decodes one stereo audio stream, when the same data in a .ts, .m2ts or .mts wrapper is decoded by

General
  Name: 2023-08-02-0 TS Wrapper.ts
  Folder: \\P8Z77\z77 G WD-8TB1\General Hospital
  Type: MPEG-2 Transport Stream
  Size: 4.72 GB (4,836,639,340 bytes)
  Created: Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 4:57:37 PM
  Modified: Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 4:58:07 PM
  Accessed: Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 5:06:08 PM
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 01:01:57.414, 59.940 fps progressive, 1280x720x12, MPEG-2
  Audio 1: 01:01:57.430, 48,000 Hz, 5.1 Surround (stereo downmix), Dolby AC-3
  Audio 2: 01:01:57.430, 48,000 Hz, 5.1 Surround, Dolby AC-3
  Audio 3: 01:01:57.430, 48,000 Hz, Stereo, Dolby AC-3

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 20.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\compoundplug
  Format: MPEG-2 Transport Stream
  Version: Version 20.0 (Build 411)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

and all AC3 audio streams are available.

Is that a typo in the plugin selection code?

Comments

mark-y wrote on 8/2/2023, 10:48 PM

Were these files muxed in VideoRedo? I get the same results.

john_dennis wrote on 8/2/2023, 10:51 PM

Yes.

mark-y wrote on 8/2/2023, 11:00 PM

I was having some other problems with the MPEG-PS muxer in VRD, so I'm preparing everything with QSF to M2TS. Fewer resyncs and better handling in Vegas, including the audio tracks. (Unless we buy the project from the developer's estate, I'm afraid it's a dead duck.)

john_dennis wrote on 8/2/2023, 11:01 PM

A similar result in this thread,

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/please-help-frustrated-with-vegas-pro-16-import-media-file--141616/

but we never saw the Mediainfo report or got any information on how the source file was generated.

john_dennis wrote on 8/2/2023, 11:16 PM

Vegas Pro 14 seems to arrive at a more reasonable decoder.

General
  Name: 2023-08-02-0 MPG Wrapper.mpg
  Folder: G:\General Hospital
  Type: MainConcept MPEG-2
  Size: 4.62 GB (4,726,761,472 bytes)
  Created: Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 3:05:47 PM
  Modified: Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 3:06:32 PM
  Accessed: Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 9:06:22 PM
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 01:01:53.660, 59.940 fps progressive, 1280x720x32, MPEG-2
  Audio 1: 00:00:00.000, 48,000 Hz, 5.1 Surround (stereo downmix), Dolby AC-3
  Audio 2: 00:00:00.000, 48,000 Hz, 5.1 Surround, Dolby AC-3

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: mcplug2.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 14.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mcplug2
  Format: MainConcept MPEG-2
  Version: Version 14.0 (Build 270) 64-bit
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

I seem to remember this behavior starting around Vegas Pro 15, but I rarely edit OTA ATSC in Vegas Pro, so I can't be certain. Never-the-less, I use .ts if I want to open MPEG-2/AC3 files in Vegas Pro.

mark-y wrote on 8/2/2023, 11:44 PM

I "occasionally" want to treat my OTA recording to better deinterlacing, upscaling, or leveling, so maybe once a month I'll take the VRD-muxed stream to Vegas.

Re-editing my own or online source is about all I do these days, since my back is keeping me off the streets.