How many forum members does it take . . .

DGrob wrote on 2/10/2004, 9:21 AM
to change a light bulb?

1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs
1 to move it to the Lighting section
2 to argue then move it to the Electricals section
7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs
5 to flame the spell checkers
3 to correct spelling/grammar flames
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"
15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct
19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum
11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum
36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty
7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs
4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's
3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group
13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"
5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs"
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again.

Picked up and ruthlessly copied from www.annoyances.org humor page. DGrob

Comments

mark2929 wrote on 2/10/2004, 9:54 AM
I changed two light bulbs in the kitchen for Samantha who wanted a stronger light 100 WATTS For her Barnet (The Mirror in the Kitchen ) Anyway to cut a long story short ..

Always wanted to do that..
mcgeedo wrote on 2/10/2004, 10:16 AM
Grob, ya missed one:

1 to post: WHY DOESN'T VEGAS CHANGE MY LIGHT BULBS!!??!! PREMIER DOES!! I WANT IT TO DO THAT, AND I WANT IT NOW!!!
mark2929 wrote on 2/10/2004, 11:19 AM
T o Save the job of some forum members having to intervene at this point I would like to say the following

1) All you really need is for jetdv to write a script easy peasy.

2)Hoos gonna hold the ladder while Premier does this ? Avid has a mojo
Vegas has CREDIBILITY. Premier has ? A high price tag ?

3)Using Vegas Plugin Folder After.. you can... Well.. Plugin.

4) Just thought about it and as a high up Forumite I just wanna say Im
Wrong WRONG i TELL YOU You just open two versions of Vegas
use Frame Server to serve the Lightbulb then the OTHER
vERSION TO hold the ladder And of course the bump map to alter
Reality using the text generater which is really a time Displacement
Machine sent from the future to .. Yes you Guessed it ..

Change Light Bulbs..
vitalforces wrote on 2/10/2004, 11:22 AM
Watt's your problem? I'm about to volt from the room. (You forgot the poster to tell light bulb jokes, and the poster to point out the absence of light bulb jokes--here you get 2 for 1). Burned out yet?

And by the way--light bulbs are VERY relevant to the Vegas forum because the color cast of any light bulb near your editing station will unconsciously influence your color correction choices--even the monitor and the colors for the Vegas GUI. I set my GUI for dark grey colors but even that's not ideal. I had a tungsten lamp for a long time and kept playing back test DVDs with a reddish cast, couldn't understand why, etc., etc., blah blah.
Grazie wrote on 2/10/2004, 11:24 AM
Rule No. 1562: In this era of politcal correctness, . . surely it is up to the bulb whether it wishes to change or not!?! It is not for us to make the bulb change - yeah?

. .. . smashing thread .. . love it .. love it - Thanks Grobsie! You reeeeallyy cheared me up ;-)

Grazie
mark2929 wrote on 2/10/2004, 11:59 AM
Of course there has to come a time to decide on whether it is worth trying to save a burnt out Lightbulb that is no longer with us. It is at that point it Could/Should be changed Of course Grazie can insist on rigid rule enforcement and argue with the bulb. Trying to elicit a response for perhaps decades. But I for one "know" when its time to say hey you know what this light bulb no longer lights up my life. I have seen the Light. And its in a new box in the drawer. All we need is a bit of get up and go. Or alternatively wait for a new program to do it for us.


Anyway while waiting you could always watch my new Film..



Do Androids Dream


J_Mac wrote on 2/10/2004, 2:00 PM
I'm amazed you accept the premise that ANY Vegas user could change a light bulb. After all it is a hardware problem not a software solution. John.
mark2929 wrote on 2/10/2004, 2:19 PM
Hmmmm Johny Mac please pay Attention this is accepting the fact that no one single Vegas user Could/ Would have the inclination or time to do this.

SOoo.

That is why in order for a swift rapid responsive change. This thread has been set up. Grazie came up with a good reasoning suggestion. However I feel a more results orientated approach is neccesary. And for that I think a commitee should be setup with a trial of Grazies Suggestion

(Ask the light Bulb and wait for an answer)

Then report back to the forum when the results come in..
J_Mac wrote on 2/10/2004, 2:31 PM
But Vegas would take forever to render a decision. John
epirb wrote on 2/10/2004, 2:53 PM
hey you forgot:
0 responses from the Sony/or forum administrators
mark2929 wrote on 2/10/2004, 3:00 PM
Well actually the comtitee would. And indeed the light bulb would break down into its natural constituents long before the committed commitee. So I think a better use of resources might be to GIVE UP and move house. which in the long term would be less stressfull I know a lot of forumites will baulk at this suggestion of submission but I submit.. no.. I admit

Defeat.
mark2929 wrote on 2/10/2004, 3:12 PM

An urgent call to Sony EPM this conundrum is becoming humdrum. We need HELP. This light bulb business is a bit complicated. We/I need to be led outa the darkness and into the light...

oops...

what was that I just banged my head on... nooo it cant be. I have Just smashed the lightbulb. Quick.. someone call 911.. We need an urgent Emergency forum thread. Nobody said what to do in a scenario of this magnitude..

wheres the superglue.. It was not my fault your honour.. Life sentence.. What happened to common sense... OOooh I see its COPYRIGHT..

..........:(

jaegersing wrote on 2/10/2004, 4:14 PM
My light bulbs are working just fine, I think there must be something wrong with the way the original poster has his system set up (although he didn't provide any details so it is difficult to help really). Suggest a search on the web for the latest drivers.

Richard Hunter
DGrob wrote on 2/10/2004, 4:23 PM
Specs? Oh, of course.

GE 100watt overclocked to 150 watts.
Delaminated with all background lights disabled.
Running Windows, by the window that is.
Total failure. All attempts to reboot have failed.

I dunno. I'm in the dark here. DGrob
PeterWright wrote on 2/10/2004, 4:59 PM
You could call the bulb a regime, then George Dubbya might change it.
MyST wrote on 2/10/2004, 6:28 PM
Also worth mentioning is the fact that alot of forum members are anxiously awaiting the next bulb due out sometime in the next few months.
This present bulb has worked flawlessly for the past year or so, but we can't help but want to upgrade to the new, improved bulb.
Somehow, just knowing that a new bulb is coming makes us feel as if this one is limted in it's functionality. Somehow we could be so much more effective with a newer, more powerul bulb.
Is there going to be a public beta for the new bulb? Where can I sign up? Will there be hardware support (you know... dimmer switches, timers) available for this new bulb? Is there any leaked pictures of this bulb on the internet?
Will somebody PLEASE give us an idea of what this new bulb will be like!!!

So, to answer the question...

How many forum members WILL change the lightbulb?

Depends on the upgrade discount.

M
craftech wrote on 2/10/2004, 6:44 PM
If these are Vegas official lightbulbs, please charge me more for them. Because light bulbs are the earmark of a true professional I want to know that I have paid more than they are worth. And please please don't delay in coming out with a NEW version of the light bulbs at double the cost so that when I die I can go to light bulb heaven and have the Sony Lightbulb Logo inscribed on my stone which reads........".Here lies Craftech who dedicated his life to Vegas lightbulbs and the eternal quest for Vegas lightbulbs to be the eternal light which shines on the bald heads of sinners so that they too may see the light............continued on back of stone...............Let all the world know that Craftech spent more on Vegas lightbulbs (Versions 2 through 12) than his family spent on this stone as specified in his will so that their povery will not have been in vain......continued on back of stone in next guy's plot........and that the case of Vegas lightbulbs Craftech gave to the Bush campaign will be appreciated for Enrons and Enrons."
MyST wrote on 2/10/2004, 6:50 PM
"......continued on back of stone in next guy's plot........"

VERY, VERY funny!!

M
Jameson_Prod wrote on 2/10/2004, 6:52 PM
I read somewhere that there was a BBT link on the web. I want to sign up for it. Can someone post the link? I have always wanted to be a BBT.


...Beta Bulb Tester........
BillyBoy wrote on 2/10/2004, 10:07 PM
I wrote this a long time a go in a one of a kind wacky newsgroup CIWAH, which is basically a bunch of stuffed shirts that think they know everything there is to know about HTML. They fancy themselves purists, hence the name.

Question: How many Purists does it take to change a light bulb?

Answer: Way too many.

Ladder:
One to get it.
One to check that the wood has no splinters.
One to see that the fastners are tight.
One to measure the ladder to see if it's within specs.
One to see if it is really a six foot ladder.
One to see if the steps are really a foot apart.
One to moan the ladder is two millimeters too long.
One to moan the first two steps are three millimeters too close.
One to moan one fastner was loose.
One to moan the wood had paint splattered on it.

Light Bulb:
One to check the standards to see which end is up.
One to moan the bulb should not have burned out yet.
One to moan the bulb produced 102 watts. Non-standard.
One to moan the bulb broke when he dropped it.
One to moan light bulbs shouldn't break.

General:
Purists are incapable of making a decision by themselves. They do
everything by committee, read one stuffy document after the other or
engage in their favorite pastime, arguing in CIWAH. So it's not
surprising no light bulb could be changed without detailed
instructions. They were simply clueless.

As a first step, Alan, Ben, and Abigail were assigned to do research.
The battle raged on. While many posted suggestions simply saying climb up on the ladder and screw the damn thing in, that wasn't good enough for our purists. Many felt that was much too risky. For that required that you twist your wrist, and since purists spend so much time banging away on their keyboards "helping" everyone with their witty replies, they were afraid that twisting their wrist would make their carpal tunnel syndrome worse, so they had to find another way.

After much "is too" "is not", a 45 page document called Light Bulb
Changing, Draft One, was produced in record time: Nine months, 2 weeks, six days. What followed was two weeks of bickering back and forth who would have the honor of hosting the LBC (official light bulb changing guiide on their site.

Others hotly debated what to do in the meantime. There was much discussion on the merits of using flashlights, candles or starting a fire. Not getting a consensus, which is typical, they decided to stay in the dark.

Finally the great day came. The decision was made. Draft Two of the LBC was approved and the purists knew the correct way to install a light bulb. The now 62 pages of instructions specified the only way to do it correctly was with four purists. Here's how it went:

The first purist wearing a safety harness carefully climbed the ladder as the other three held it steady. Firmly holding the light bulb in his right hand, his heart pounding, the first purist broke out in a cold sweat. The old bulb was still in the socket! Rifling through Draft Two of the LBC he felt dizzy. Try has he might, there were no instructions for removing the old bulb and he was stumped.

Six weeks later, Draft 3 of the LBC now a 100 page document was ready. Our four purists, beaming with pride tried again. The first purist climbed up high. In thirty minutes time the old bulb was removed. Now the moment of truth. The other three slowly turned the ladder in a clockwise direction as purist one stiffly held out the new bulb. After several clumsy attempts and many broken bulbs, success! Purist one had to remind the other three purists that they could stop turning the ladder. After first checking the LBC and only two hours of debate to see if that was proper, they agreed it was probably the best thing to do. Purist two flipped the switch. Nothing happened. Purist three always a little suspect of the other purist abilities, had enough, and with the LBC in hand, he climbed the ladder. After standing there, thinking he spotted something on page 88, he concluded that indeed purist one had not installed the light bulb correctly. After only ten minutes, he did manage to free it (almost) from it's socket. However purist three didn't know there was a typo on page 92 of the LBC that said to remove light bulb, turn clockwise instead of counterclockwise. Purist three following the LBC religiously as all good purists do, never questioned it's content, stubbornly kept twisting until he broke the bulb and left half in the socket.

Dejected, he climbed down the ladder. Someone in the newsgroup suggested they use a potato to safely remove the broken bulb. That advice was rejected immediately and many yelled at those offering the advice and pointed out time and time again that potatoes had nothing to do with light bulbs and there was no such specs in their LBC documents.

Meanwhile purist two went back on his own and remembering reading something about pliers, he figured he could interface with the bulb. He could not find the already checked out wooden ladder so he found a aluminum ladder instead. He climbed up and as soon as the pliers touched the socket, purist two felt a tingling go through his body as he yanked his arm in a jerk he pulled the extension cord which was badly frayed and since such things were not covered in the LBC it was tragic that he also pulled the exposed wire into the puddle of water that one leg of the ladder was standing in. He shook and shook and after what seemed for minutes he grabbed for the only thing he could, his copy of the LBC.

Sadly in doing so he lost his balance and fell head first landing on the cement floor. Sorry, this tale has a sad ending. Purist two has gone to that great newsgroup in the great beyond. The battle is still raging if or not it would be proper to add pages to the LBC warning about electrical shock and some think maybe a footnote should be included about potatoes.

Some things never change and our purist friends are still in the dark. Geez I hope I don't have to explain this story! ;o)
Grazie wrote on 2/10/2004, 10:38 PM
BB? Think "Mirror" - Got it? No ? . . . ;-) G
Trichome wrote on 2/10/2004, 11:10 PM
The fist step is to admit the lightbulb is of a Higher Wattage and without power to it we are all in the dark.

Now if the lighbulb actually goes on over your head write that idea down as it'll likely be a winner.
Grazie wrote on 2/10/2004, 11:12 PM
Open the Iris?
Earl_J wrote on 5/9/2010, 5:08 PM
How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb?
Only one; but the light bulb really has to want to change...

Let's start it again. . . (grin)