On my new workstation I still prefer the better quality of CPU render above the faster GPU render. I'm glad that I put more attention to a faster i9 CPU (this morning rendering 100% at 4.8GHz) than to the latest GTX.
When I just want rendering speed I use my other NLE which does the same render with 123 fps NV.
Maybe you as the GPU render expert can explain to me why Vegas is only using the encoding part of the GPU and not also the decoding part, whilst rendering, like my other (faster) NLE does.
@3POINT - No I’m not. I’ve just had my PC fixed by specialists, and garnered support from others here. Perhaps one day I can reach your understandings of these things. Until that time I rely on your and others for direction. 😉
When I just want rendering speed I use my other NLE which does the same render with 123 fps NV.
Maybe you as the GPU render expert can explain to me why Vegas is only using the encoding part of the GPU and not also the decoding part, whilst rendering, like my other (faster) NLE does.
Video decode depends on the type of footage. Vegas supports hardware decoding of certain formats. Try regular AVC and you should see both.
For me I have my integrated GPU doing decoding so it doesn't show up on the NVIDIA tab. [Edit- I think you are probably seeing the same- your Intel GPU is at 19%. Try clicking on it]
When I just want rendering speed I use my other NLE which does the same render with 123 fps NV.
Maybe you as the GPU render expert can explain to me why Vegas is only using the encoding part of the GPU and not also the decoding part, whilst rendering, like my other (faster) NLE does.
Video decode depends on the type of footage. Vegas supports hardware decoding of certain formats. Try regular AVC and you should see both.
For me I have my integrated GPU doing decoding so it doesn't show up on the NVIDIA tab. [Edit- I think you are probably seeing the same- your Intel GPU is at 19%. Try clicking on it]
Means Vegas could also render much faster when it would support hardware decoding, like me other NLE does?
Vegas does support hardware decoding (and if you clicked on Intel you'd likely see that) so the difference is more likely that Vegas doesn't use the GPU's core processing functionality (upper row for 3D) very well. It does do encoding and decoding. It also may not be as efficient at utilizing multicore CPUs as other software.
Feel free to share a screenshot of task manager with the other NLE to compare CPU and GPU activity.
Screenshot of Vegas rendering compared with my other NLE rendering, same footage (DJI Osmo Pocket AVC 2160p50 100 Mbps) rendered to 2160p50 with dissolves between clips. My other NLE renders almost 3 times faster than Vegas with the same GPU hardware.
@3POINT Interesting results. I'm surprised there's no 3D usage with the other program. It must be well-optimized for GPU Encoding and Decoding. What is the CPU% like during the render?
However for Vegas, I think you are clicking on the wrong GPU- if you want to see decoding, try Intel. Alternatively in Vegas File I/O, change hardware decoding to NVIDIA from Auto (Intel). It may be less stable and compatible with fewer file formats, but performance is likely higher with NVIDIA.
The basic point that Vegas isn't that well optimized for performance is something I agree with.
4K to HD conversions: Vegas (NVENC): 0:33 Vegas (Mainconcept CPU): 2:53 Effects (CPU + GPU support but not for encoding): 1:19 Resolve (not Studio so no encoding/decoding GPU support): 1:44
Here's what it looks like in Vegas Effects doing a 4K to HD conversion- CPU is around 100% and no hardware encoding (presumably to preserve quality) but there is decoding with NVIDIA and 3D activity with both Intel and NVIDIA.
Resolve- no decoding activity but yes for 3D. CPU~100%:
@RogerS Sorry, I'm not that interested how to speed up rendering times or in rendering speed tests at all. First because rendering is just a very small part of the whole video editing process and spending a few minutes more or less on that hours taken process, I don't care. Second as I also always do 4k to FHD conversion, I'm really disappointed about the quality of those GPU supported renders compared to Voukoder CPU renders.
Sorry, I'm not that interested how to speed up rendering times or in rendering speed tests at all. First because rendering is just a very small part of the whole video editing process and spending a few minutes more or less on that hours taken process, I don't care.
@3POINT Ah righto. So I’m now understanding your depth of dislike about this thread. You have very high standards, nothing wrong with that. And definitely no need to apologise with your “sorry”, I’m now understanding even further your comment about me knowing about rendering. We are fortunate to have your expertise on this Forum. I’m always willing to learn from you.