Thanks JR....I just tried it. Perfect. Thank you so much
Lori

Lori, You're welcome. Glad I could help. :-)

~jr

Wow, anyone watch any of their sample vids ? Using U2, Coldplay, and other top fourty music in their previews ! That takes balls.

- Ray

www.undergroundplanet.com

>Using U2, Coldplay, and other top fourty music in their previews !<
yeah, that was the how'd they do that part for me.

It's called "Stupidity; How I risked my reputation and business and got away with it.....for a while." Very nice vid work tho.

Spot, I am glad we have you around. You're like that little good voice on the right shoulder as opposed to the guy with the pitchfork on the left.
I just lost a wedding because I did not want to agree to using the couples "favorite" songs but I feel no loss. Kind of good to stay ethical.

Copyright asides, if you'd like some inspiration for wedding videos, check out http://www.pictureperfectmovies.com

Hi all: First off, thanks for the input on the how-to's and Rafalk thank you for the link. I checked out the samples....very nice. Anyway this post is two fold. I now understand how to effect mentioned in the first post, but I was wondering if there is anyway to create (per -say in a graphics software package) different shapes other than the ones offered in the Cookie Cutter presets, that will allow me to acheive the exact same effect.

Second, back to the copyright issue....I have been scouring the bridal shows in my area ( Metro Detroit) just to see what other wedding videographers are putting out on the market. Almost every videography company I spoke to says that it is totally legal to use a couples favorite music in their wedding video, providing the following: 1). The couple must provide the music and it shall be returned to them upon completion of the video OR 2). If they do not have the music, the videopgrapher will, on their behalf, purchase the music, charge the client for it , and return it to them upon completion of the video. Any thoughts on this you guys???? I too lost a client for not allowing my customer to use Sara McClaughlin's " In the Arms fo the Angels song. Oh well.

if you create the shape in something like photoshop w the backround black then draw the shape in white. save as jpg or png, import into your project . place it on the top vid track the color version of your clip below that and the b/w ver below that. then click the make composite child arrow on the left side of track 2 (color clip).
this should do what you need.

Or better yet, refer to Spot's Editing Workshop book page 217-218.
chapter 8

(verses 1-10 in the gospel according to compositng) sometimes its like a bible to me :)
yeah though I walk through the valley of the video editing shaddows , thy vegas workshop book and forum comfort me!

Thanks Epirb, I'll definately give your suggestion a try. I don't own Spots book, but I have heard so much about it. Do you know where I could purchase it???
Thanks
Lori J.

Ooh no you can't buy this book....you must write a 500 word essay to 15 people in this forum stating why you think you deserve this book,along with your resume' and either your left pinky or a toe.
At least thats what I did........
OR you can pick it up online at either Amazon or Barnes and Noble bout $35-38 bucks.
Best $30 odd dollars you can spend for learning Vegas apart from this forum.
personaly it was even worth the toe :)

> Almost every videography company I spoke to says that it is totally legal to use a couples favorite music in their wedding video

Well... almost every videography company you spoke to was wrong. This has been discussed several times on this and other forums. Buying the CD or owning a copy has nothing to with video. That’s because once you place the music on the video timeline, you are syncing music to video imagery and you need “sync rights”. Buying the CD gives you the right to “listen” to the music. Syncing it to video is totally different from every other right. The only way to legally use the couple’s favorite music in their wedding video is to acquire the sync rights for that song from the publisher.

~jr

Actually I think you need MORE than the sync rights, that just lets you copy it into the video, then you gotta pay per copy / play or whatever.

The scary thing is I've heard this same BS from so many wedding guys it's plain scary. And it seems to be so ingrained in the industry that I don't know how you could educate the clients otherwise.
Maybe the artists wouldn't press the point by having some newly weds loosing their house over it, lots of negative publicity there but the suits would be another matter, I think one guys already in deep poo over exactly this in the US.

Thank you Johnny Roy and Farss for eloborating on this subect. I did not know about sync rights. I personally just make it a habit not to even discuss what music I'm using when someone gives me their wedding or vacation video to edit ( mostly friends and friends of friends). My parents are in kind of in the same boat in their business. They own a well established photography studio that has been in the family over 40 years. They are constantly battling with people who have taken their pro photos and scanned them without their permission. Heck, my own sister in law had my father photograph her wedding, she never placed an order or bought any of the pictures, but instead, scanned all of the proofs she wanted and then had the audacity to put them in frames and display them in her home and pass out wallet sized photos to other family members!!!!! Dispite the fact that each and every proof had the copyright seal printed right on the back.

Anyway sorry for rambling, this issue is such a touchy subject with me because it is just wrong.........Thanks all for letting me vent.
Lori J.

Just to add to this conversation, a copy house near Detroit was recently forced out of business because they copied tapes with copyrighted music. What makes this more interesting is that the customer provided ASCAP forms that were forged, so the copyhouse believed that the customer had permission to use the songs. This raises the question of due dilligence. How much is enough? As producers, do we need to call the music artists or their representatives ourselves to verify that the forms are valid (Yes, may I please speak with Michael Jackson?)?

how about making the videos for our use? meaning that it's our vacation our wedding etc.? is that legal. it will only be showed to our immediate family? thanks for the input.

That would probably be covered under the so-called fair use laws. You just can't make a profit or allow anyone else to make a profit off the music.

>(Yes, may I please speak with Michael Jackson?)?<

Actually, Michael might leap at the chance to talk about his music....

G

LOL! ;)

Specialy if you call using a high prepubesent voice :)

I found this web page when I did a search on sync rights. Boy you realy
have to think twice when you are working on a project. When someone
wonts us to use someone elses work we should them this web page......
or do we need to get the rights for that???

http://www.filmmusicmag.com/columns/leg/leglicense.html


Terry