“.....tune the vegas thread count, make sure your cpu isn't throttled, and so on”

@michael-harrison - Never heard of these two? How do I do that? The Count and the throttle thing?

Just load the media that is been used in your project and use the explorer to add media.

So, gents, any Media in the Project Media Pane, even not on the Timeline, will slowdown loading. Tell me, would that also hamper Timeline performance too?

No, it makes a project unnecessary complicated when lots of unused media is in the media pane. Always use the clean up media feature before saving and closing your project.

@3POINT - Well that makes sense! I’ve always added ALL the Media I’d shot and then layout the Project. What you’re saying is ADD to the Project from the Explorer on a when and if needed. Huh, 18 years later! Seesh..... @3POINT you’ve just made me explore a different workflow, thank you.

All media you have shot you can explore and preview in the explorer without adding them to your project. Just the needed media that you drag from the explorer to the timeline will be added to the media pane.

@3POINT - I've used Folders to Custom Bins from VASST and imported some 134GB and thought nothing of the overhead it could produce.

@3POINT - O...K...

1] Yes, halved my Timeline appearance - good!

2] Yes, my RE TAKES are still in and the originals - good!

3] Now to ascertain how much more responsive the T/L will be.

@3POINT - I'd always used Media Manager but since that's fallen away I’ve gone the Bin way. But now... maybe this is going to be better.

Very grateful - Grazie!

A Bin structure of your media you can set up also in your windows explorer.

In the Vegasexplorer you can add your media folders to your favourites. Direct access to pictures, videos, music, overlays, backgrounds or projects without first importing them.

@Grazie  ... For many years, I've taken @3POINT 's approach in that I've used Windows Explorer to create all the folders and sub-folders for a project under a master folder name. Beneath, I've got folders named for the source media such as video from the AX100 camera, GoPro and phone; and then there are other folders for stills taken from those devices. And each of those folders have sub-folders breaking them down to the dates on which the shots were taken. Other folders are devoted to things like Stills (from elsewhere), audio events exported from SoundForge Pro, SpectraLayers Pro, RX Adv, etc; and titles created in BorisFX Title Studio or NBFX Titler Pro, or even Mocha/Mocha Pro project exports. This might seem excessive but, gosh, I don't get lost searching for things like I used to at the beginning years ago.

Maybe my approach harks back to using my first computer back in 1986 - DOS 3 - 2 x 5.25" floppy drives with a later upgrade of the C drive to a whoppingly huge 20 MB HDD. DOS was a folder based system. Windows 3 - the first version of what has now evolved into Windows 10 - emerged in 1990 or thereabouts.

Going back to VP11, I had a project with one corrupt video event. VP11 would not open the project other than in safe mode (where I tracked down the problem video event) - but the failure to open the project seemed to be somewhat due to having the Project Media window active in the project. And yes, it soon became apparent that start up was so much quicker without Project Media being an active window. So I haven't used Project Media as an active window since then.

The only reasons I now use Project Media is to use the 'Remove all unused media from the project' button as a clean-up (which eliminates the can't find media pop-up on opening a project if an event has not only been deleted from the timeline but also from the source folder); or to use the Replace function.

Eh, guys, @3POINT & @Dexcon, do you mean M$ Windows Explorer OR VegasPro Explorer? In the last two hours I’ve been revisiting Vegas Explorer?

I feel a dunce....

@Grazie I don't want to hack your post , just 1 extra question

Question ; How do you guy's handle your proxy's , you can't create proxy files in the Vegas explorer window ?

@Wiew - Good question! Thanks for participating.

@Grazie  ... definitely MS Windows Explorer. My opinion is that VP Explorer is a direct link to MS Windows Explorer - I have not seen any difference between the two. If I update MS Explorer by adding media or a folder, it updates in VP Explorer though hitting the Refresh button is necessary if the update happens while VP is open.

BTW, I updated my earlier comment to give a bit of a history at what is now the 2nd paragraph about how I came to use the MS folder system.

I feel a dunce....

Good grief, not at all. We all get used to a procedure at some time that has alternatives which may or may not be an improvement to what we've already got used to. I plead guilty Your Honour on many counts in my life (none of them in the legal sense I should point out - the worst being several parking fines a long time ago).

@Wiew

@Grazie I don't want to hack your post , just 1 extra question

Question ; How do you guy's handle your proxy's , you can't create proxy files in the Vegas explorer window

I don't need to do anything, not in Explorer and not in Project Media using this in Internal settings ( if I wished it)

@j-v Thank you ,I adjusted the settings ;-)

How do I preview through through Windows Explorer? Also VP WE allows me to send to Trimmer.

VP's Explorer window is absolutely still used in a VP project, and previews and Send to Trimmer can still be performed as always.

Where the difference is is that I use MS Windows Explorer to create and organise the project folder and its sub-folders (on the D drive in my case) as well as copy/pasting media from the camera memory cards and so on. In other words, the preparatory work is done in MS Windows Explorer. Then, after opening VP, VP's Explorer window is used to drill down to the project folder/s on the D drive. Video and audio events can then be dragged from the VP Explorer window on to the timeline. Effectively, VP's Explorer window is MS' Windows Explorer but within the VP programme.

Dexcon uses the same workflow as me. I use also the Vegasexplorer to quickly access my music collection, pictures, backgrounds, animations etc. The only advantage of the Media pane is the import of a image sequence.

I also use the same workflow as @Dexcon - and I'm happy with it.
What still connects me to Dexcon - I found out today - the exact same beginning of my IT "career"

Maybe my approach harks back to using my first computer back in 1986 - DOS 3 - 2 x 5.25" floppy drives with a later upgrade of the C drive to a whoppingly huge 20 MB HDD. DOS was a folder based system. Windows 3 - the first version of what has now evolved into Windows 10 - emerged in 1990 or thereabouts.

Right, gents, I also use MS Windows Explorer to organise folders and files. I then import Bins to the Project Media Pane. Now, is importing to the Project Media ALL the Folders as Bins slower in actual load and editing than using the Vegas Pro Explorer? How or why is Vegas Explorer faster in loading than my Import Folders as Bins? What is the fundamental communications going on? After all in both scenarios these are only “links” - yes?

BTW, seeing I can use Trimmer, from within the Vegas Explorer, I’m gonna explore how well this does me whilst doing the editing. I really miss Media Manager..... ☹️

@Grazie

... is importing to the Project Media ALL the Folders as Bins slower in actual load and editing than using the Vegas Pro Explorer?

Unfortunately, I don't have any experience here simply because I don't use the bins. I tried bins years ago when they were first introduced but quickly dropped the idea because I much preferred the VP Explorer process - the latter just worked better for me and in no way implies that the bins are not useful for others.

My guess is that VP Explorer doesn't cause any delay to opening a project, but suspect without any empirical evidence that the bins may cause a delay because the launching process not only has to populate the timeline but also the data in the bins. It would be great if MAGIX staff could clarify this.

Another observation: The opening time for a project for the first time since rebooting the computer is much, much longer than occurs when opening the same project when it has already been opened during the current computer 'on' session - even if days later. I wonder if this may actually be an advantage of VP not completely closing in Task Manager as has been raised as a problem in years past.

@walter-i.  ... Today to delete a file, its just a case of highlighting the file in Windows Explorer and hitting the Delete button. Don't you miss the DOS days when to action a deletion we had to go Command Prompt and type in something like "C:\ DEL\FILENAME.XXX with the correct spacing used in that code line (which I no longer remember)? And it was even worse for copy/paste if I remember correctly. Actually, I don't miss that at all - but it was an amazing adventure.