How to supscript letters in credit roll?

MusicCommunity wrote on 8/13/2015, 6:10 AM
Hello everyone,

at the moment I've to create some credit roll or something similar. And I've to create an ® as an supscripted letter. How can I do that in sony vegas? Or could you recommend me an alternate plugin to do creditrolls, animated text and stuff like that.

Edit: Within the ProType Titler I'm able to do that, but I can't animate the text as an credit roll. Or is there a trick to do this?

All the best,
Ralf

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Grazie wrote on 8/13/2015, 8:10 AM
Would this do yah? I did it in Sony Titles and Text:



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Grazie wrote on 8/13/2015, 8:16 AM
Here is Legacy Text:



Here is ProType Titler:



Grazie

wwaag wrote on 8/13/2015, 10:50 AM
@Grazie,

You showed you could do it, but didn't say how.

wwaag

Added: Sorry for my ignorance. Two tracks--two titles. One with registered sign only scaled.

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Grazie wrote on 8/13/2015, 11:15 AM
Correct. I wanted to hear back first if this would be visually acceptable. Or if it wasn't then I'd draw a line. But as you, Mr Waggie, are insinuating that I should spill the beans, how could I refuse.

OK, from what I've learnt not ALL Fonts lend themselves to being bullied like this, in Vegas Pro. It would seem ARIAL, at least on my machine, is just such a Font. I'd like to hear IF our friend here is using ARIAL or what the bulk of the fonts being used.

I chose to use another font other than ARIAL and it worked. This is NOT the case with WORD, on my machine. I can get nice SUPERSCRIPTS in WORD.

Another "Gotcha" is that VP will display a SUPERSCRIPT in the GenMed but this is NOT reflected in the Preview or ExtMon. Go figure?

I got the " ® " from with M$ Character Map and then adjusted size and Font style in GenMed.

VP has a real issue with some Fonts - still. I've yet to checkout NBTP4, but I'm guessing that will play ball.

Grazie
NormanPCN wrote on 8/13/2015, 12:38 PM
It would be nice if video text generators in Vegas supported super/subscript. Protype has an Opentype feature for this but it requires and font to support super/sub. Many/most fonts do not have this support.

Most word processors have super/sub features but they are faking it and it will work with any font. They just reduce the font size and move the baseline. It is this ability that we would like in video character generators.

If you paste something with super/sub from a word processor into Titles and Text or Legacy for example the UI screen will still show the super/sub since it understands and uses the RTF formatting for that. It is a standard common UI feature. However, the video character generator does not understand/use the super/sub RTF formatting. Hence the diff you see in T&T and legacy in Vegas.

Protype give full control over individual characters. Move, size, rotate, scale etc.

NewBlue also gives full control over every character.

Often special roll generators often support less features than the general text generator but you can roll some massive text.
john_dennis wrote on 8/13/2015, 2:26 PM

Here is a method that I use.

It does require access to applications that some people may not have.

Marco. wrote on 8/13/2015, 2:36 PM
If you use »Calibri« font as shown in the video you don't need workarounds for Vegas Pro. In this case subscript ® works in »Legacy Text«, »Titles & Text«, »Credit Roll« and »ProType Titler«.
wwaag wrote on 8/13/2015, 2:44 PM
@John Dennis

Very nice. Along the same lines, from Word you can save as a pdf and then open that file directly in Photoshop, resize, and export as a png.

wwaag

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Grazie wrote on 8/13/2015, 2:47 PM
Marco, Calibri was one of them. ARIAL not for me.

Grazie
farss wrote on 8/13/2015, 9:37 PM
Reminds me of a very recent typographic conundrum, the proper "flat" character as in "Fugue in Bb" which is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Unfortunately very few fonts have U+266D. I did find one and then to add to my woes putting it in Photoshop caused it for the first time ever to start generating error messages.

Bob.
john_dennis wrote on 8/13/2015, 11:23 PM

Every time we do one of these exercises I learn more than anyone else.

@wwaag

"... from Word you can save as a pdf and then open that file directly in Photoshop, resize, and export as a png."

I'm familiar with the concept but a long time ago I had a version of Photoshop that wouldn't open the PDFs that I was creating and I learned to avoid the practice. It's amazing how habits die hard. That was ten or twelve years and a number of Photoshop versions ago.

ushere wrote on 8/15/2015, 3:24 AM
you can call me old fashioned (though my wife would say that was being too kind by far)...

i still like doing my more 'arty-farty' rolls in ps. not only can i really be creative but throwing logo's, graphics, and such like in has never proved a problem.

for basic rolls i still use vegas's built in title gen - in pal land i've never had any problems with judder / stutter / etc.,
Grazie wrote on 8/15/2015, 3:37 AM
Use an alternative font, and be done.

Grazie
SWS wrote on 8/15/2015, 10:02 AM
Holding down the ALT key and typing on the numeric pad 0169 or 0174 works for me. But maybe that's not what you're taking about?

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