Inserting Audio track default volume is now -4,8 dB in VP22 build 194?

bitman wrote on 11/5/2024, 10:05 AM

I just noticed that inserting an audio track is now -4,8 dB in VP22 build 194?

It is in every VP22 project new or old I open now.

Did I do something stupid or saved a different default? I do not recall.

Or did something change with the new audio features such as audio ducking, normalize...

VP21 has 0 dB as default volume.

Could someone confirm this?

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john_dennis wrote on 11/5/2024, 10:58 AM

These data posted without comment:

Sound Forge

                                                     Left Channel            Right Channel       
Cursor position (Time)                               00:00:00.000            00:00:00.000        
Sample value at cursor (dB)                          -Inf.                   -Inf.               
Minimum sample position (Time)                       00:00:00.003            00:00:00.003        
Minimum sample value (dB)                            -12.000                 -12.000             
Maximum sample position (Time)                       00:00:00.009            00:00:00.009        
Maximum sample value (dB)                            -12.000                 -12.000             
RMS level (dB)                                       -15.010                 -15.010             
Average value (dB)                                   -Inf.                   -Inf.               
Zero crossings (Hz)                                  880.00                  880.00              
Maximum true peak sample position (Time)             00:00:00.797            00:00:00.797        
Maximum true peak sample value (dBTP)                -12.000                 -12.000             
Maximum filtered true peak sample position (Time)    00:00:00.000            00:00:00.000        
Maximum filtered true peak sample value (dBTP)       -11.814                 -11.814             

Integrated Loudness (LUFS)        -13.07
Loudness Range (LU)             11.40
Maximum True Peak Loudness (dBTP)    -12.00
Maximum Short-Term Loudness (LUFS)    -17.14
Maximum Momentary Loudness (LUFS)    -12.23

Vegas 13

Log updated:     11/05/2024 08:51:25
Media:         --
Log file:     C:\Users\John\Desktop\Vegas 13.txt

Stream:     Audio Stream:Master
Format:     16-bit PCM data, 2 channels @ 48000 Hz
Algorithm:     Surround processing turned: OFF

Loudness calculations:

              Pos.         Time    Mom.(LUFS)    Short(LUFS)    Integ.(LUFS)    Dyn.(LU)

            8192    00:00:00.171    -15.93        -24.68        -17.43         21.40
           16384    00:00:00.341    -13.93        -22.68        -15.91         21.90
           24576    00:00:00.512    -12.23        -20.28        -14.15          8.20
           32768    00:00:00.683    -12.23        -18.74        -13.50          9.80
           40960    00:00:00.853    -12.23        -18.14        -13.32         10.40


---------------------------
Results:

Mom. (max):     -12.23 (LUFS) at 00:00:00.512
Short (max):     -18.14 (LUFS) at 00:00:00.853
Integrated:     -13.32 (LUFS)

Vegas 21

Log updated:     11/05/2024 08:52:30
Media:         --
Log file:     C:\Users\John\Desktop\Vegas 21.txt

Stream:     Audio Stream:Master
Format:     16-bit PCM data, 2 channels @ 48000 Hz
Algorithm:     Surround processing turned: OFF

Loudness calculations:

              Pos.         Time    Mom.(LUFS)    Short(LUFS)    Integ.(LUFS)    Dyn.(LU)

            8192    00:00:00.171    -15.93        -24.68        -17.43         21.40
           16384    00:00:00.341    -13.93        -22.68        -15.91         21.90
           24576    00:00:00.512    -12.23        -20.28        -14.15          8.20
           32768    00:00:00.683    -12.23        -18.74        -13.50          9.80
           40960    00:00:00.853    -12.23        -18.14        -13.32         10.40


---------------------------
Results:

Mom. (max):     -12.23 (LUFS) at 00:00:00.512
Short (max):     -18.14 (LUFS) at 00:00:00.853
Integrated:     -13.32 (LUFS)


Vegas 22

Log updated:     11/05/2024 08:53:14
Media:         --
Log file:     C:\Users\John\Desktop\Vegas 22.txt

Stream:     Audio Stream:Master
Format:     16-bit PCM data, 2 channels @ 48000 Hz
Algorithm:     Surround processing turned: OFF

Loudness calculations:

              Pos.         Time    Mom.(LUFS)    Short(LUFS)    Integ.(LUFS)    Dyn.(LU)

            8192    00:00:00.171    -15.93        -24.68        -17.43         21.40
           16384    00:00:00.341    -13.93        -22.68        -15.91         21.90
           24576    00:00:00.512    -12.23        -20.28        -14.15          8.20
           32768    00:00:00.683    -12.23        -18.74        -13.50          9.80
           40960    00:00:00.853    -12.23        -18.14        -13.32         10.40


---------------------------
Results:

Mom. (max):     -12.23 (LUFS) at 00:00:00.512
Short (max):     -18.14 (LUFS) at 00:00:00.853
Integrated:     -13.32 (LUFS)


 

bitman wrote on 11/5/2024, 12:32 PM

@john_dennis thanks for the effort, but my question is to something which is perhaps better explained by a picture:

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bitman wrote on 11/5/2024, 12:37 PM

Why is my track volume slider when inserting new tracks -4,8 dB ?

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john_dennis wrote on 11/5/2024, 1:28 PM

Right + Click on audio track header...

jetdv wrote on 11/5/2024, 1:28 PM

Perhaps you changed it to -4.8 and then saved that as the default?

 

Change it back to 0.0 and then...

Right-click the audio track header:

Choose Set default properties:

bitman wrote on 11/5/2024, 1:29 PM

 

Did I do something stupid or saved a different default? I do not recall.

I guess I did something stupid, found the issue, I must have pressed "set default track properties" on a track with -4.8 dB (right click on track header) while I was trying out the new audio ducking!

After selecting "restore original defaults" all is fixed, inserting new tracks have 0 dB as it was before.

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bitman wrote on 11/5/2024, 1:31 PM

@jetdv indeed, just found it myself, thanks anyway!

Learned something more!

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bitman wrote on 11/5/2024, 1:33 PM

@john_dennis thank you to!

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 suite (VP 22 build 194) VP 21 build 315, VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 17 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2025, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 18, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner studio X, DXO photolab (8), Luminar, Topaz...

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  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
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