Is it just me, or does VEGAS Pro 15 crash at regular intervals?

SamJoex wrote on 1/29/2018, 6:53 PM

This may sound ridiculous at first. While editing, VEGAS Pro 15 Suite tends to crash on me after a while. It first glitches the interface before completely crashing, giving me only a few seconds to save my project and restart the software before it crashes completely and slows down my entire computer by an absurd amount. (My computer has 16 GB of RAM as well.) I first thought that this only happened when the program window was active, but just now it crashed and slowed down my computer while I was using a different program.

Has anyone else had this occur?

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xberk wrote on 1/29/2018, 10:13 PM

VP15 has been very stable for me as was VP14 too. I can't say VP15 has never crashed, but I can say I'm not sure when it last crashed.

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Pashi wrote on 1/31/2018, 5:48 AM

It's okay. Relax and enjoy)))

fifonik wrote on 1/31/2018, 6:09 AM

I have not seen any VP15 crashes other than with VP15 Sample Project & AMD graphic card or with project that uses non-supported any longer plugins yet :)

 

P.S. I'm using VP15 only a few days yet.

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wwjd wrote on 2/1/2018, 9:16 AM

All my Vegas's - 11 to 15 - all crash at random intervals.... seemingly plugin or FX related. SEEMINGly. Or full moons?

SamJoex wrote on 2/1/2018, 11:26 AM

@wwjd

I had VEGAS Pro 13 Edit and Movie Studio 13 Platinum Suite before VEGAS Pro 15 Suite, and the former two were pretty solid. Movie Studio 13 was my most solid editing software, as I think it only crashed on me once or twice. VEGAS Pro 13 was pretty solid too, but I did have to restart it in order to render videos properly (same can be said for VEGAS Pro 15). Maybe I have a bit of a faulty install of VEGAS Pro 15, as it's crashed on me the most (but it's still my ultimate editing software).

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wwjd wrote on 2/2/2018, 8:30 AM

Yeah, it's awesome that software never has bugs. ;)

With so many tiny variants on PC systems, hardware, other software installed, updates, security issues, etc. it is a wonder things run consistently at all.

wilri001 wrote on 2/2/2018, 8:56 AM

Version 15 hangs/crashes so often, I've stopped editing with it, and went back to version 13. I do render with 15, since that's about twice as fast.

I notice that 15 slows down over 15 - 30 minutes until it hangs/crashes.

I'm always using multicam edit with 4 - 6 video tracks - a mix of HD1080 and proxies from 4k. All are .mdt or .mp4 files.

I only use color curve/correct, cross-fade, and pan/crop on almost every clip. But no intensive fx. 60 fps tracks are set to not resample - otherwise it crashes really quick.

Configuration: AMD Threadripper 1950 x, AMD Fury x, 16gb DDR4, 500gb m.2. So a very fast machine.

I have 173 crash reports, but can never get the SHFT+CTRL when clicking SEND to create .zip file. So there's nothing I can do to give support doc. So I'm just waiting for them to stabilize 15. I really like the UI.

Those of you who DON'T have stability issues with 15, could YOU give details on your hardware, how many tracks of what kind of files, etc.? I don't think the problem is just related to AMD GPU because I've seen similar reports with Nvidia 1060. I suspect those that don't crash are just editing one track and not driving the CPU/GPU hard enough to have issues. Certainly, version 13 did not take full use of CPU/GPU. Render in 13 uses 25% CPU, but 15 uses 85%, for example (using Magix new codec). But 15 also doesn't handle high use cases. For example, if I don't use proxies for 4k, sure the fps is really low, but Vegas will hang/crash really quickly. It's a matter of pushing the hardware enough that timing issues aren't handled.

And it's frustrating that I can't help Support with dumps or other doc. They just send canned emails and close my cases when they are resolved at all.

 

Norbert wrote on 2/2/2018, 9:48 AM

It's slow for me too, I hope Magix will focus on optimizations since I have a very powerful PC and the GUI slows down, the video lags a little at every new video events and it crashes for no reason for time to time. The code of the GUI should be rewritten.

SamJoex wrote on 2/2/2018, 1:53 PM

@wilri001

For me, the number of video tracks I use at the same time varies from video to video. If it is a simple Classic Windows Errors episode, I'll usually need at least 2 video tracks at once (1 for the error, and 1 for my watermark), and 5 for any two-person chase scenes (1 for each character, 1 for the test screen background, 1 for the text, and 1 for my watermark). On the other end of the spectrum, my most edit-heavy videos are my Cyber Duels (RPG Battle Scenes). I make these sparingly, as they take me quite a while to make. My most recent one (Microsoft Sam VS. Microsoft Mike) needed 23 video tracks overall, and 6 of those were being used 100% to 80% of the time. That doesn't include my watermark, which was added to the video after rendering. The battle scene itself is only 58 seconds.

I also render all of my videos in 4K, except for videos with transparent backgrounds (these include RPG attacks and damage splashes, for use in my Cyber Duels). Those only go up to 1080p.

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SamJoex wrote on 2/2/2018, 1:54 PM

@wilri001

My watermark is also 3D Text from NewBlue Titler Pro 5. Because it basically turns video playback into a slideshow while editing, I usually mute its video track until I render my video.

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Computer Specs:
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RAM: 64GB DDR5-4800
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU
Storage: 3 TB NVMe SSD

RealityStudio wrote on 2/2/2018, 3:04 PM

This may sound ridiculous at first. While editing, VEGAS Pro 15 Suite tends to crash on me after a while. It first glitches the interface before completely crashing, giving me only a few seconds to save my project and restart the software before it crashes completely and slows down my entire computer by an absurd amount. (My computer has 16 GB of RAM as well.) I first thought that this only happened when the program window was active, but just now it crashed and slowed down my computer while I was using a different program.

Has anyone else had this occur?

Yeah I have the exact same crash in the same way you describe, first the interface dies then the program totally locks up, although in my case it doesn't slow down the computer, it's just Vegas that locks up. I tend to take many screen grabs from videos for picture galleries which means lots of scrubbing, and Vegas will always crash on me after a similar amount of time when I'm doing that, like clockwork. It's been doing that for many years now for me going back many Vegas versions, so it's a really old bug that still hasn't been found yet. So it goes, aside from that consistent crash Vegas works well for me generally speaking.

walter-i. wrote on 2/3/2018, 4:46 AM

For me: 2 main reasons for crashes: Plugins and too much speed

I have crashes with Vegas 11 to 15 by using plugins (mainly proDAD and NewBlue Titler).
Sometimes I only click on "Heroglyph" under Media-Generators - and it crashes at once.
Su I use ProDAD Heroglyph and ReSpeedr as standalone and import this files in Vegas (I tried all the suggestions from proDAD - but no success).
I also tried the suggestions in this forum for NewBlue Titler- but no success - Finally I gave it up.

Or - if I close Vegas, and it's not now ready with saving the project-file. So I wait about 20 seconds and have no crash any more.

With these experiences, Vegas is very stable for me.

NCARalph wrote on 2/3/2018, 3:04 PM

I've found V15 to be quite stable. I generally am editing 2 4K tracks plus a couple of lower thirds, and a sound track. The video and sound tracks are about 1-2 hours long. My editing isn't too complex though, pan/crop, color correction, unsharp mask, envelopes, a few transitions.

I've had a few cases where everything seemed to freeze, but then it came back after a minute or so. I have no idea what caused it. Hard crashes only a couple of times.

Niko-Aarnivuo wrote on 1/22/2019, 1:32 AM

Version 15 hangs/crashes so often, I've stopped editing with it, and went back to version 13. I do render with 15, since that's about twice as fast.

I notice that 15 slows down over 15 - 30 minutes until it hangs/crashes.

I'm always using multicam edit with 4 - 6 video tracks - a mix of HD1080 and proxies from 4k. All are .mdt or .mp4 files.

I only use color curve/correct, cross-fade, and pan/crop on almost every clip. But no intensive fx. 60 fps tracks are set to not resample - otherwise it crashes really quick.

Configuration: AMD Threadripper 1950 x, AMD Fury x, 16gb DDR4, 500gb m.2. So a very fast machine.

I have 173 crash reports, but can never get the SHFT+CTRL when clicking SEND to create .zip file. So there's nothing I can do to give support doc. So I'm just waiting for them to stabilize 15. I really like the UI.

Those of you who DON'T have stability issues with 15, could YOU give details on your hardware, how many tracks of what kind of files, etc.? I don't think the problem is just related to AMD GPU because I've seen similar reports with Nvidia 1060. I suspect those that don't crash are just editing one track and not driving the CPU/GPU hard enough to have issues. Certainly, version 13 did not take full use of CPU/GPU. Render in 13 uses 25% CPU, but 15 uses 85%, for example (using Magix new codec). But 15 also doesn't handle high use cases. For example, if I don't use proxies for 4k, sure the fps is really low, but Vegas will hang/crash really quickly. It's a matter of pushing the hardware enough that timing issues aren't handled.

And it's frustrating that I can't help Support with dumps or other doc. They just send canned emails and close my cases when they are resolved at all.

 

I have the same problem.

SamJoex wrote on 1/22/2019, 3:41 AM

I haven't had these issues now that I've upgraded from Build 1xx (can't exactly recall) of Vegas Pro 15, so it seems they fixed these issues. But if these problems are still rampant for other users, perhaps Version 13 might be the best way to go after all.

What build of Vegas Pro 15 do you have? I currently have Build 416.

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Computer Specs:
[MSI Raider GE76 12UE]
OS: Windows 11 Home 64-Bit
CPU: Intel Core i7-12700H
RAM: 64GB DDR5-4800
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU
Storage: 3 TB NVMe SSD