Is there a BUG in: automatic preview in Vegas 4

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KPITRL wrote on 3/16/2003, 3:29 PM
Whew! thats a relief, Don't get me wrong I do want to upgrade,
but i just haven't the time right now.
Again, thanks, and I'm looking forward to the update.

KPITRL
SonyTSW wrote on 3/17/2003, 12:19 AM
Vegas 4 uses the "New still image length" setting in Options | Preferences | Editing tab for the amount of time that a still image is displayed in automatic preview from the media explorer.

Have any of you who are experiencing this problem changed this pref value to a shorter duration (the default is 5 seconds)? If you have, could you try changing it to something longer and report back whether this "fixes" the problem? Sounds like you could be seeing the problem Spot mentioned earlier in this thread, where the preview image times out before the image loads.
Tyler.Durden wrote on 3/17/2003, 7:41 AM
Hi all,

I'm not done poking around but I do notice in V4 the preview play button does not "release" after mouse-click... same when auto-preview is active, selecting another graphic in explorer activates the play-button but it does not release.

My V4 did display a still occasionally, but I haven't found the magic, reproducable sequence... yet.


HTH, MPH
MarkWWWW wrote on 3/17/2003, 8:18 AM
I hadn't changed this setting from the default 5 seconds, but as an experiment I've just changed it to 15 seconds to see if it would help.

But the problem still occurs - the only difference is that the preview window now changes to the appropriate shape for the image being previewed and stays like that for about 15 seconds before it reverts to the project aspect ratio again - the image in question is still not shown in the preview window.

Clearly it's half working because the preview window does resize/shape itself properly to suit the image being previewed, but for some reason the image itself is never displayed.
SonyTSW wrote on 3/17/2003, 9:13 AM
OK, thanks everyone for the info! Sounds like it is something that is specific to Win9x. We'll look into it.
KPITRL wrote on 3/17/2003, 3:18 PM
SonicTSW

I know I'm chiming in a little late, but my default setting is
still 5 sec., and making it longer doesn't correct the issues.

Thanks,

KPITRL
SonyTSW wrote on 3/17/2003, 5:20 PM
We were able to reproduce the problem and are looking into it. We will try to get this fixed in the next Vegas 4 update, please be patient.
brant wrote on 3/17/2003, 9:29 PM
This bug also exists when previewing .WAV files. During a preview, the first tenth of a second on playback, sounds like a 'leftover' from another .wav file. Try playing back different files on different directories. You can hear a partial from another wave. Using win98SE also.
Grazie wrote on 3/18/2003, 1:09 AM
WinME here, I suppose a 98 flavour. I render to new track last night > PTT. I too thought I was hearing things when noticed a "residual" piece of music coming back too. It isn't on the T/L. Hmmm....

As to previewing JPG I haven't yet seen a problem.

Grazie
GrizzlyIke wrote on 3/18/2003, 7:03 AM
Yes SonicTSW. I am running W98SE on a Gateway 600 Select and have the same problem. Happen to have a clip in which I used psd, png, and jpg files. The jpg is a pano created from captured video frames, while the other two are high resolution stills prepared in Photoshop Elements 2.0. None of these files will preview from the explorer in Vegas 4.0 (statistics are there and the preview screen size changes, but no picture). All three preview perfectly in Vegas Video 3.0c (on the same machine). Quicktime 6.0 is also present.
GrizzlyIke wrote on 3/18/2003, 7:23 AM
Strange. Have the still picture preview problem with 98SE (see my previous post), but cannot detect your problem with either .wav or .mp3 file preview. Checked both sound and music clips. They all sound fine to me!
SeanC wrote on 3/18/2003, 11:17 AM
I too have heard the audio issue. Running Win XP pro and VV4
KPITRL wrote on 3/19/2003, 11:23 AM
Will there be a notice, or e-mail when the update is available?

kpitrl
SonyTSW wrote on 3/19/2003, 12:20 PM
Yes, we'll always post a message to this forum when a Vegas update becomes available.
brant wrote on 3/25/2003, 2:43 PM
My automatic preview of stills now works. Can view all stills - jpg, gif, bmp, tga, psd, etc. Have a win98SE system with a Nvidia GeForce2, 32 meg card. Besides updating Quicktime, I downloaded and installed the latest video drivers for the GeForce2 card. And set the color depth back to 32 bit (new drivers set the depth to 16 bit by default). It's good to see the stills again in the Preview window. Now if I could figure out what is going on with the audio file 'remnants'. I've changed all the cache sizes on my audio card to no avail yet.....
KPITRL wrote on 3/26/2003, 1:53 PM
Hi Brant,

Glad to hear you got the auto-preview going, Where did you get the updated
driver foy your video card?, sounds like you have the same one that I have.

I went to (Nvidia online) and updated my drivers there. Looks like their
updates cover a broad spectrum of video cards. I didn't enjoy the same
success that you did, so were there any special setting you had to try
besides resetting to 32 bit?

I really miss this feature, and I know Sofo is working on an update, but
if I could figure this thing out sooner, it would be great.

Thanks
brant wrote on 3/26/2003, 8:42 PM
The first thing that I had done was to install Quicktime 6.0. Then the drivers for my Nvidia GeForce2 MX/MX 400, 32 meg card. I had found the driver file 41.09_win9x.exe at: http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp. Driver version ends up being 4.13.01.4109. I am running at 1280x1024x32 resolution on my display. I left everything else set to default (as shown in the GeForce properties panel). I did have the latest version of DirectX installed previous to my installation of VV4.

The only other change to my system that I made was to toss out the old Sound Blaster Live Value card that was in the PC. It only did 4.1 audio anyway. I put in a SB Live 5.1 card, and then installed the KX Project ASIO drivers so that I could get VV4 to talk to the card and mix 5.1. Othewise, nothing else was changed in my system. No VV4 setings, properties or options, were changed either. And it still works.
wobblyboy wrote on 3/27/2003, 3:13 PM
I am currently using Pica View to preview media files. My problem is a little different. Vegas does not list or see tif files as a media files. To load a tif file I have to select all files in Explorer window and then load the file. It loads tif files but will not preview. Preview will not work for any still files If I place file on time line to preview. Preview in Explorer dosen't work. I assume this is because I am using Pica View. I pulled up Vegas 3. Vegas 3 did not see tif files as a madia file. However I could go to all files and open tif file. It would then preview all still files with no problem? Questions: 1. Why dosen't Vegas 3 or 4 see a tif file as a media file in explorer? 2. Why can Vegas 3 preview still files and Vegas 4 cannot? I hate to get rid of pica view as I use it all the time in other applications. Anyway I'm going to reinstall and see if that helps.
wobblyboy wrote on 3/27/2003, 4:28 PM
What I don't understand is why VV3 sees still image previews just fine and VV4 does not. I checked and they are both using the same plug in DLL?
SonyTSW wrote on 4/7/2003, 10:10 PM
The fix for automatic previewing of stills in Vegas 4 on Win9x (98SE/ME) is included in the Vegas 4.0b update. You can get it here:

Sonic Foundry Updates Page
brant wrote on 4/7/2003, 10:18 PM
Nope, not quite fixed. Try a 1439x1485x32 or larger gif file. Preview window changes size, image displayed for a microsecond or so, that's it. My system is a win98se, nvidia gforce2, and all the latest drivers.
SonyTSW wrote on 4/7/2003, 10:55 PM
The automatic preview of stills uses the still image length for the duration of the preview, perhaps you have this set to a short time period. You can change it in Options | Preferences | Editing tab.

If you do change this value, you'll need to change it back if you prefer a different duration for loading stills on the timeline.
noFony wrote on 4/7/2003, 11:29 PM
This problem is related to the choice of audio device type in options/preferences. In 4.0b,if it's set to microsoft sound mapper then the stills won't preview, but if you switch to asio or direct sound, then the stills will preview. In 4.0 it wouldn't work with asio or direct sound (I forget which,one or the other)either.
WinME
866Mhz
384ram
Audiophile2496
Nvidia64Geforce(the latest driver for this card does NOT function properly on this system...using last update made specifically for ME)

I hope this helps.
Good luck all :)
brant wrote on 4/7/2003, 11:42 PM
Initially just by updating my video drivers for the Gforce2, it fixed the preview problem with VV4 version 4.0a. But I never tried a gif file of such a large size, such as 2508x1790x32. This is where my problem really is. The rest of the file types - jpg, tif, psd work, no matter how big. Have asio sound mapped also. Stills preview worked previous to asio mapping (but not the big ones). Noticed the same problem in VV3 with the big gif. Evidently, Vegas takes too long to render a preview for a gif.