Hey all, hoping this hasn't been bought up before and that you all can help
I recently upgraded to Vegas Pro 22 and Have started to have issues with the rotation of a video
Here is an example...
When I twist the video the image In the preview screen automatically zooms to the top left corner of that video
I have no idea why it is doing this. hopefully, it's some weird option that I need to uncheck.
Any help is appreciated in advance. Thanks all
-Dan
@Daniel-Ibbertson that seems normal to me.
If I do a (positive) rotation via pan crop (a tilt clockwise), the result is a tilt to the left (counter clockwise)
pretty much everything you do in pan crop results in the opposite (like a mirror). It is just the way Vegas works, I know, it is a bit counter intuitive...
Thanks for your help @bitman but the direction of the tilt isn't the issue, its that it shoots to the top left whenever I move it
Hopefully, this helps explain my problem a little better
@Daniel-Ibbertson I was afraid it was not as simple as that! Unfortunately I have not toyed yet with the brandnew feature AI autoreframe, as I suspect it messes things up.
Try to experiment:
1) to place pan crop before ai autoreframe in the FX chain, or after (you have it after currently)
2) try to insert/use the ai autoreframe FX on a different level than event level (like on video output FX, medialevel, adjustment event, adjustment track etc...)
3) use another FX to rotate than pan crop, like picture in picture
Daniel, if you can visualize that you are rotating and moving the frame, and not the picture, the Great Pan/Crop Mystery should become clearer to you.
For a very few people who already have metaperceptual skills, the mental trick is easy.
However, for the other 98% of us, the correct rotation and placement of the image in the preview takes practice, practice, practice, and more practice tomorrow. You are not alone.
Also The little white arrow with the padlock indicates you have the image movement locked vertically. Click to change, and then you can drag the frame (dashed outline) freely in any direction.
There are lots of resources to help you learn advanced timeline skills, which are pretty strange at first. The best place to start is your Vegas Help Menu.
In addition, the internet is full of tutorials and articles on this stuff; a good place to start looking is here:
Welcome to the discussions, and thanks for a good question.
@Daniel-Ibbertson I was afraid it was not as simple as that! Unfortunately I have not toyed yet with the brandnew feature AI autoreframe, as I suspect it messes things up.
Try to experiment:
1) to place pan crop before ai autoreframe in the FX chain, or after (you have it after currently)
2) try to insert/use the ai autoreframe FX on a different level than event level (like on video output FX, medialevel, adjustment event, adjustment track etc...)
3) use another FX to rotate than pan crop, like picture in picture
Appreciate the support here. but I have not added any AI Autoframe into the video to make this happen. I will however as suggested look for a different way to fix this as suggested
Daniel, if you can visualize that you are rotating and moving the frame, and not the picture, the Great Pan/Crop Mystery should become clearer to you.
For a very few people who already have metaperceptual skills, the mental trick is easy.
However, for the other 98% of us, the correct rotation and placement of the image in the preview takes practice, practice, practice, and more practice tomorrow. You are not alone.
Also The little white arrow with the padlock indicates you have the image movement locked vertically. Click to change.
There are lots of resources to help you learn advanced timeline skills, which are pretty strange at first. The best place to start is your Vegas Help Menu.
In addition, the internet is full of tutorials and articles on this stuff; a good place to start looking is here:
Welcome to the discussions, and thanks for a good question.
Thanks for the advice. I have been using Vegas for many many years and I have a complete understanding on how to lock the movement of the frame to verticle, horizontal or to free move.
The issue I have is that with this latest upgrade to Vegas 22 it weirdly changes the position of the video when I am not asking it too.
Daniel,
Thanks for clarifying.
One really good way to identify your post as a problem report rather than a general use question is to put the word [BUG] in your topic title. That way, it will attract the attention of the Developers.
If I had noticed that you have Vegas 22, I might not have replied, since I don't own it. 😉
I see that this is your first post, thanks for spotting what may be a bug in your version, and welcome to the discussions!
In the Pan/Crop Window, move Pan/Crop fX to the left so it is first in the fX chain.
pretty much everything you do in pan crop results in the opposite (like a mirror). It is just the way Vegas works, I know, it is a bit counter intuitive...
Think of the Pan/Crop window as a "Camera Lens" - if you tilt a camera sideways to the right, the image will be tilted left. If you move the camera up, the image will move down. etc...
@Daniel-Ibbertson Do I understand that your issue is that the content of the Pan/Crop rectangle doesn't match the content of the Preview Window?
@Daniel-Ibbertson In the video and pictures that you shared we can clearly see the AI autoreframe effect placed before "pan and crop" in the FX chain. That's what might be causing the issue. Delete or deactivate the effect to see if that helps.
... but I have not added any AI Autoframe into the video to make this happen.
Nevertheless, AI Auto Reframe has been added as an FX and is checked on - it's highlighted below with the arrow:
Try unchecking or deleting that FX to see if that fixes the issue.
@Daniel-Ibbertson In the video and pictures that you shared we can clearly see the AI autoreframe effect placed before "pan and crop" in the FX chain. That's what might be causing the issue. Delete or deactivate the effect to see if that helps.
OMG How did I not notice that! Yep, unticking that fixed the issue. Sorry to @bitman who suggested this before, it wasn't something I added myself, It was automatically added somehow, must be a new thing for version 22 (I just jumped from 19)
Also Thanks for your help @Dexcon, @LdM_Edit, @john_dennis, @jetdv & @mark-y
That said, as seen here, there are a few issues they still need to iron out in version 22.
Regardless, I can work around them. Thanks again everyone for all your help
it wasn't something I added myself, It was automatically added somehow, must be a new thing for version 22
@Daniel-Ibbertson nope, effects don't just jump onto events by themself. And AI AutoReframe is not an effect that would be automatically there. In all the projects I've edited in 22, AI AutoReframe hasn't been "automatically added somehow". I can understand you possibly accidentally adding it and didn't realize it... but it didn't add itself.