I am editing 4K60FPS VIDEO VEGAS PRO 21 for the first time, the video preview is incredibly lagging, I have already taken the steps I found on the internet to keep it from slowing down. And turn of thumbals.
My componets
I7-10700KF
16GB Ram
NVIDIA RTX 3080
Or is it important to create a proxy ?
First start with what exactly the media is. HEVC? 10 bit? This tool can help us figure it out: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/
Do you have to edit at 60fps or is 30fps with slow motion in places enough?
But yes, proxy files are great when VEGAS has trouble with the source footage.
(I would uncheck legacy AVC and experimental HEVC decoding and keep dynamic ram preview at 10% or so as you only have 32GB total)
Since I've only done video manuals for apps until now, I'm swimming in some of the basics. So I can have projeckt at 30FPS and in 4k and not ruin the video quality and I can render at 60 FPS. Anyway I'm thinking if the finished product is going to be on YTB so that might be enough ?
Yes, the codec is hecv (H.265), Color space is Apple log, after case what would you recommend me in the future to avoid these problems.
and I have a weak PC for 4k vision work?
@RogerS
Hi Jakub, if your videos incorporate screengrabs that have to be at 60fps to look normal then you want a 60fps project.
Most video is delivered at 24, 25 or 30fps. Personally if it's normal footage (not apps/gameplay), I would edit at 4K30 and then render to 30fps.
Apple log suggests it is a phone file? Could you share MediaInfo? Phones also have a more compatible mode that is AVC vs HEVC. Do you take advantage of the extra dynamic range in log? If not a normal standard profile might be easier for you to work with and less taxing for your system.
Your PC isn't weak and should be able to edit phone footage if you take care with what media you give it. For HEVC, NVIDIA decoding seems to be a work in progress with VEGAS Pro 21. You can try to uncheck or check the experimental HEVC decoding box in VEGAS options/preferences/ file io and see if it helps.
Another workaround is to right-click the media and "create video proxy" which it will use when the preview is at preview or draft quality. The final render will be at good/best.
So, when it is a video clip (music) is not important, I shoot at 60FPS, when you recommend me to record in 4k 30FPS.
Yes for starters, I shoot with IP15 pro max through a black magic cam. I saw it as a way to learn how to see well and then move on to something else. Now I don't have the files with me so I can only upload screens from ip.
When I was uploading, hecv. 264 1920*1080. resolution so I had no problem. So the codec was not quite well chosen. ?
I used proxi but it still lagged me, but I created them in vegas.
@RogerS
@Jakub The lag problem you are facing is largely due to decoding HEVC (H.265) with your current system. Your processor is a KF variant, the "F" meaning it does not have an internal GPU. This is a pity, because intel processors with a graphical unit are a huge help to decode HEVC in Vegas.
Also filming in 60 FPS is overkill as most FPS delivery is 24, 30 (or 25 PAL countries).
Filming at 60 FPS is good if you want to have the occasional slow motion at half the speed (and deliver in 30FPS), or for sports filming with a lot of motion.
But a higher frame rate like 60 FPS will be harder for Vegas to work with (so more data, more lag) and requires more light when filming (lower frame rates are better in low lighting, due to shutter speed)
Personally I'd shoot with different settings. Unless you have an HDR computer monitor and knowledge of color grading I would start with standard dynamic range. Change the codec to AVC (h264), color space REC 709 and shoot at 30fps for normal video. Almost everything you watch online is REC 709 and 30fps or less.
Proxy files take a few minutes to create.
Personally I'd shoot with different settings. Unless you have an HDR computer monitor and knowledge of color grading I would start with standard dynamic range. Change the codec to AVC (h264), color space REC 709 and shoot at 30fps for normal video. Almost everything you watch online is REC 709 and 30fps or less.
Proxy files take a few minutes to create.
Could you recommend a video or a website which standards I should follow to improve and pick up new information ? In the color editing results what I'm looking for is pretty subjective.. I haven't found anywhere a guaranteed procedure, but I'm afraid I'm looking in my original language. When I was editing, the me part of the video, in my rather amateur eye I guess, I have to say I was happy, but then I had my head in the clouds, from finding out that we were actually shooting on three different cameras, a drone and two iphones. I'm so sorry he can feel amateurish.
For the next time, I know at least... How do you do this in a professional environment?
How are you doing the conversion from log to Rec 709? Usually it's by using a LUT the camera makers provides or a color spaces in ACES ("32 bit full" in project properties in VEGAS and then find the right space by right clicking on the media. Space not there? You need a LUT.)
With footage that starts in Rec709 there's less to do as that's the display standard. Calibrate the monitor to sRGB or Rec709 using a hardware device for best accuracy and then you can let your eyes be the judge. Start with white balance, set white and black points and you can control contrast using a curve for example. The color grading panel has many tools like this in one place.