Looking for Documentary Editor in Mid-Texas

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rmack350 wrote on 6/16/2009, 8:37 AM
We're on the same page on this, just different paragraphs. The condensed version of my position on this is that people are welcome to try to get free labor, equipment, and facilities. They don't lose much for trying and some of them may be hiring crew in 10 years.

On the other hand, if someone on this forum wrote that they had an offer like this I'd advise them to be very careful about what they agree to and remember that people respect an expensive whore more than they'll ever respect a cheap one.

Rob Mack
Serena wrote on 6/16/2009, 7:03 PM
There is another aspect to this which hasn't been mentioned. These proposals are also opportunities for newbies to get involved in a production, so then the request for show reels is appropriate and probably wise. Everyone has to start somewhere.
Patryk Rebisz wrote on 6/16/2009, 8:04 PM
My only 2 cents i could add is that people who request for free labor are usually terrible business men (even in this case: the film is about suicide prevention, if you can't get some foundations to give you money for this project then can you convince anyone about anything???). They simply have no skills at raising money or being realistic about expectations, thus my personal experience says: stay away from free labor as nothing good ever comes out of it, EVER.
farss wrote on 6/16/2009, 8:45 PM
What does an editor put in a showreel?

Bob.
Serena wrote on 6/16/2009, 9:46 PM
Well I was thinking a bit about that when I wrote that comment, and since film making is a collaborative venture individual contributions can be hard to tease out. The quality of editing is self evident, I believe, but is it the work of the editor or of the director who sat on the bench saying "cut here". They give an Academy Award for editing, so that contribution can be teased out. So my answer to the question is that the show reel will have scenes for which the editor can claim creative contribution with some written statement about that. There are two ways to get work: be cheap, or be known to be good. How do you get known? And in low cost productions the editor probably handles most of the post work, so can make pretty obvious claims.
dibbkd wrote on 6/17/2009, 6:06 AM
quote from Serena:

You took the words out of my mouth.

Nowhere in the OP did he mention he required "pros" to help out. Although I'm sure anyone would love a pro to help...

People here need to keep in mind that just because they have Vegas "Pro", doesn't mean that everyone that owns VP is a pro, and certainly not everyone on this "pro" forum is a pro, myself included.

If I were anywhere near Texas I'd consider helping out, I'm an amateur with a "regular" day job (not related to video at all), and I'd think it'd be neat to help out with something like this.

On the other hand, I'm not a pro, and my work isn't anywhere near the quality of you pros, so maybe the poster wouldn't want someone like me.

But yeah, I can see why a real pro wouldn't want to work for free, the same reason I don't fix networks for free.

:)