Low on memory bug, but it's not true

Vegas21_user wrote on 4/19/2024, 9:14 PM

I am unable to render my 36 minute video. I get an error with RAM. But this error is not true because I have enough RAM (64GB). And during rendering, there is a lot of free memory left to use.

The film cannot be rendered.



This is while render (as you see, a lot of memory left):

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Former user wrote on 4/19/2024, 9:27 PM

@Vegas21_user Hi, I believe this is GPU memory (VRAM) not RAM, I get it occasionally even though I've got an RTX3090 with 24GB, I'm not sure if there is a fix for this but I'd be interested to know more.

RogerS wrote on 4/19/2024, 9:35 PM

The red looks like a GPU error. What is your GPU model and how much ram does it have?

Are you using any Fx and if so which ones?

Vegas21_user wrote on 4/20/2024, 7:03 PM

The red looks like a GPU error. What is your GPU model and how much ram does it have?

Are you using any Fx and if so which ones?

nVidia GeeForce GTX 1080 6GB RAM

It cannot be that the program you paid for does not meet your expectations and does not work.

What's more, everything works in competitive programs like Adobe Premiere. On the same hardware or even worse.

My 36-minute video cannot be rendered. I've been trying for three days now. I don't have any effects on the image, it's very simple editing.

Former user wrote on 4/20/2024, 7:12 PM

@Vegas21_user Is your GPU driver up to date?

Adis-a wrote on 4/20/2024, 7:55 PM

Have you tried rendering with "GPU accelereation of video processing" turned off?

Former user wrote on 4/20/2024, 8:03 PM

nVidia GeeForce GTX 1080 6GB RAM

@Vegas21_user GTX 1080 has 8GB doesn't it?

Vegas21_user wrote on 4/21/2024, 12:53 PM

I tried EVERYTHING and nothing works.
All of my drivers are up do date.
I tried "GPU accelereation of video processing" turned off. I've tried disabling this option before.
Dynamic RAM preview set to 0.
Maximum number of rendering threads set to lower value.
Number of reference frame set to higher value.
...nothing works.

All methods of solving the problem found on the Internet (on the forum, on YouTube) do not work.


I've had a lot of problems with Vegas for many years. Ten years ago, if my video was longer than 15 minutes, the program would not render it. More than 10 years have passed since then and I see that the creators of Vegas still have not solved the problems of this software. I am very disappointed with the quality of the software. I switched from version 13 to version 21 and I was convinced that all the old problems no longer existed. I am shocked at how bad the software is in Vegas. I would like to remind you that if I start rendering a movie of the same length (same source files) in Adobe Premiere, it renders without any problems.

frmax wrote on 4/21/2024, 1:06 PM

Mediainfo? CPU and GPU shouldn't be a problem, even weaker systems should be able to handle it

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Wolfgang S. wrote on 4/21/2024, 1:12 PM

What type of footage do you render? Mediainfo printout?

And what are the specs of your PC?

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HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Vegas21_user wrote on 4/21/2024, 1:21 PM

Mediainfo? CPU and GPU shouldn't be a problem, even weaker systems should be able to handle it

No matter I think. I remember the problem occurring a decade ago on VARIOUS file types.

Specs:

One type of file:

Second type of file:

Chief24 wrote on 4/21/2024, 1:54 PM

Well, because I am so tired of hearing about how great Premiere Pro is, opens anything, renders with no issues, and NEVER CRASHES!

Just my "2 Cents Worth".

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Abubakar wrote on 4/21/2024, 2:39 PM

I am unable to render my 36 minute video. I get an error with RAM. But this error is not true because I have enough RAM (64GB). And during rendering, there is a lot of free memory left to use.

The film cannot be rendered.



This is while render (as you see, a lot of memory left):

I have the same problem. Mostly it happens in longer renders. Its caused by the adjustment event that you inserted in your track. try muting that Track and render again. it worked for me i hope it works for you also. its a bug that still exists in Vegas 21 build 300.

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Adis-a wrote on 4/21/2024, 3:31 PM

I tried EVERYTHING and nothing works.
All of my drivers are up do date.
I tried "GPU accelereation of video processing" turned off. I've tried disabling this option before.
Dynamic RAM preview set to 0.
Maximum number of rendering threads set to lower value.
Number of reference frame set to higher value.
...nothing works.

All methods of solving the problem found on the Internet (on the forum, on YouTube) do not work.


I've had a lot of problems with Vegas for many years. Ten years ago, if my video was longer than 15 minutes, the program would not render it. More than 10 years have passed since then and I see that the creators of Vegas still have not solved the problems of this software. I am very disappointed with the quality of the software. I switched from version 13 to version 21 and I was convinced that all the old problems no longer existed. I am shocked at how bad the software is in Vegas. I would like to remind you that if I start rendering a movie of the same length (same source files) in Adobe Premiere, it renders without any problems.

Just checking if I understood this correctly: after you rendered the material in Premiere, you then go back to Vegas to what - continue to struggle with it?

Vegas21_user wrote on 4/21/2024, 5:43 PM

I tried EVERYTHING and nothing works.
All of my drivers are up do date.
I tried "GPU accelereation of video processing" turned off. I've tried disabling this option before.
Dynamic RAM preview set to 0.
Maximum number of rendering threads set to lower value.
Number of reference frame set to higher value.
...nothing works.

All methods of solving the problem found on the Internet (on the forum, on YouTube) do not work.


I've had a lot of problems with Vegas for many years. Ten years ago, if my video was longer than 15 minutes, the program would not render it. More than 10 years have passed since then and I see that the creators of Vegas still have not solved the problems of this software. I am very disappointed with the quality of the software. I switched from version 13 to version 21 and I was convinced that all the old problems no longer existed. I am shocked at how bad the software is in Vegas. I would like to remind you that if I start rendering a movie of the same length (same source files) in Adobe Premiere, it renders without any problems.

Just checking if I understood this correctly: after you rendered the material in Premiere, you then go back to Vegas to what - continue to struggle with it?

But why do you write such a comment and what surprises you about it?

Vegas is my software. And it should work properly. I paid for a product that doesn't work. I knew Vegas was a terribly buggy program. But I hoped that after many years its creators had improved the program's operation. Unfortunately they didn't do it.

I only did a trial run with the competing software. But it doesn't surprise me. I used to work in an advertising agency, we produced films. Exactly the same camera shots were cropped in Vegas but not in Adobe Premiere (on the same computer).

With my test, I only proved which program is better and more stable.

Vegas is not suitable for any serious client work. You won't meet any deadlines working on it. You will get surprises like mine. Currently, I have been trying to complete the project and render the video for 4 days.

In the past, in cases of such errors, I divided the film into three parts. Then I reconnected all the parts and rendered the whole thing. The program also crashed 20 times during this activity, but it finally rendered the movie.

When I moved from the old Vegas to the newest one, such stories are not acceptable to me.

Vegas21_user wrote on 4/21/2024, 5:45 PM

Well, because I am so tired of hearing about how great Premiere Pro is, opens anything, renders with no issues, and NEVER CRASHES!

Just my "2 Cents Worth".

About 10 years in filmmaking. A lot of work done in Premiere Pro - works perfectly.
Work in Vegas? - a lot of errors, bugs, issues. Whole my life.
Don't you understand that I recently moved from the old version to the new one? And from the very old to the newest? I was hoping that since so much time had passed, they had improved the program. They didn't do it.

Vegas21_user wrote on 4/21/2024, 6:01 PM

nVidia GeeForce GTX 1080 6GB RAM

@Vegas21_user GTX 1080 has 8GB doesn't it?

Gid, my mistake. I have excatly: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

Adis-a wrote on 4/21/2024, 6:29 PM

I tried EVERYTHING and nothing works.
All of my drivers are up do date.
I tried "GPU accelereation of video processing" turned off. I've tried disabling this option before.
Dynamic RAM preview set to 0.
Maximum number of rendering threads set to lower value.
Number of reference frame set to higher value.
...nothing works.

All methods of solving the problem found on the Internet (on the forum, on YouTube) do not work.


I've had a lot of problems with Vegas for many years. Ten years ago, if my video was longer than 15 minutes, the program would not render it. More than 10 years have passed since then and I see that the creators of Vegas still have not solved the problems of this software. I am very disappointed with the quality of the software. I switched from version 13 to version 21 and I was convinced that all the old problems no longer existed. I am shocked at how bad the software is in Vegas. I would like to remind you that if I start rendering a movie of the same length (same source files) in Adobe Premiere, it renders without any problems.

Just checking if I understood this correctly: after you rendered the material in Premiere, you then go back to Vegas to what - continue to struggle with it?

But why do you write such a comment and (...)

I think you're lying, that's why.

RogerS wrote on 4/21/2024, 7:38 PM

Mediainfo? CPU and GPU shouldn't be a problem, even weaker systems should be able to handle it

No matter I think. I remember the problem occurring a decade ago on VARIOUS file types.

Specs:

One type of file:

Second type of file:

Could you please share full MediaInfo for these files? Instructions: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

As a diagnostic do other of the projects in my signature render? If so the issue is likely specific to the media you are using.

If it fails at the encoding stage it's possible Voukoder would help as a workaround. It integrates into VEGAS and takes raw frames from it for encoding. Install the non-pro version. https://www.voukoder.org/

Vegas21_user wrote on 4/21/2024, 11:32 PM

An incredibly big thank you to: @Abubakar

You all tried to help but maybe you are not aware of how buggy Sony Vegas is. I've been working with it since Vegas 6, so 19 years. And I know how many bugs this software has. Therefore, in the case of my problem, I KNEW PERFECTLY that it was not a matter of incorrect settings, but again, it was Vegas's another bug.

This is truly tragic and support people should comment on this matter immediately. They offer a defective, non-working product.

Once again, thank you very much @Abubakar

Vegas21_user wrote on 4/21/2024, 11:33 PM

 

I think you're lying, that's why.

And I think you are a brazen, inexperienced user. Work with Vegas for 19 years like me and you will know how many bugs this software had (and still has). Could you please remove users like @Adis-a who write false news and accuse me of lying about the topic?

Wolfgang S. wrote on 4/22/2024, 12:53 AM

@Vegas21_user,

in all your discussions, you rant about bugs Vegas. Please be aware that this is a user forum - where ranting makes no sense. Blaming other users makes no sense either. More, that is fortbidden here, according to the community rules.

So please stick to the community rules. And stop your ranting.

In addition, you were asked by me as moderator to deliver inputs that may us allow to try to help you - for example the information about your footage with the tool Mediainfo. I have not seen that.

If you really are looking for help, you have to follow the recommended steps here:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

For example, we need info about your footage, the camera used to shoot it, the complete specs from your computer, maybe a sample from your footage.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Adis-a wrote on 4/22/2024, 4:18 AM

 

I think you're lying, that's why.

And I think you are a brazen, inexperienced user. Work with Vegas for 19 years like me and you will know how many bugs this software had (and still has). Could you please remove users like @Adis-a who write false news and accuse me of lying about the topic?

I answered your question, you didn't answer mine.

BTW, here's another one:

but maybe you are not aware of how buggy Sony Vegas is.

 

what version of Sony Vegas are you using currently?

EricLNZ wrote on 4/22/2024, 5:39 AM

@Vegas21_user You seem to be having a lot of problems with your "Sony" Vegas so the question has to be asked - are you using a legitimate installation or a pirated version?

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 4/22/2024, 8:25 AM

@Vegas21_user It's obvious Vegas Pro is just not working for you, So no matter what anyone here says or recommends, you just gonna shoot it down...... Adobe Premiere Pro works perfectly for you, nothing is wrong with using that instead as your main editor and set Vegas Pro aside.