Many crashes that require a restart of Vegas Pro 22

JH26 wrote on 11/23/2024, 8:53 AM

Hi everyone,

I am on Vegas Pro 22 and I still have many crashes and slowness that require a restart of Vegas Pro 22. Do you also have this kind of problem? I already had this kind of problem with previous versions?

I film in 8 or 10 bits with a GH5, I use a software to cut out the whites, then I import the videos in xml with the cuts, and I render after editing in 8 bits.

The videos that I export are 25 minutes maximum, but often between 5 and 15 minutes.

I have a PC with a 5900X chip, a RX6700 GPU, 32GB of DDR4 RAM at 3200 MHz, B450 Aorus Elite motherboard, a Samsung 980 Pro SSD to store my video, image, music files, a Crucial MX500 SSD for the Windows 11 pro system and a Sandisk SDSSDA480G SSD, for rendering/exports...

What could limit me and cause these crashes? If I need to improve something, what is it?

 

I have another problem too that concerns the audio:
I always render the audio part in Flac or a similar format that I first rework on Audacity; then I drop the reworked file into the Vegas Pro timeline on another audio track just below.

Unfortunately, the reworked audio file cannot be perfectly superimposed on the original audio/video file on the timeline, there are shifts in the sound curves. If I cut this audio file, the curves shift. I have the impression that it is a bug. I tried to render the audio part, then drag/drop the resulting file onto the timeline (without doing any audio processing) and I have exactly the same problem.

Do you have any idea where the problem could come from?

 

Thank you.

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RogerS wrote on 11/23/2024, 9:02 AM

What is the other software you are using to cut out whites?

JH26 wrote on 11/23/2024, 5:08 PM

Cut out/Remove silences : I use TimeBolt

RogerS wrote on 11/23/2024, 11:19 PM

Okay, so the software that is cutting the clips for you isn't actually changing the footage but just giving you an XML?

When you get a crash is there an error reporter box with a message? Can you paste in the message here? If not and it just hangs you can hold down shift and under the options menu go to internal and change "hang detection" from FALSE to TRUE.

Are preferences/ file io on defaults with the AMD doing the decoding and legacy AVC/ experimental HEVC unchecked?

For the audio issue if you temporarily uncheck "quantize to frames" can you make it line up perfectly? If you could share a screenshot for that issue it might easier to understand what is going wrong.

Reyfox wrote on 11/27/2024, 9:30 AM

@JH26 I have a similar spec'ed computer, see my Signature. I've been working with 10bit 422 4K footage and have zero, and I mean this, zero crashes or issues. I'll have Firefox open along with Bitdefender and Malwarebytes running in the background at all times.

My footage is from a Lumix G9 camera, and it never gave me any grief.

But, it seems like you are using other software along with Vegas Pro, which I might think is the cause of your issues. What if you didn't use it, how is the performance then, just using the raw GH5 footage?

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Wolfgang S. wrote on 11/27/2024, 10:56 AM

I also wonder why it is necessay to use another software to cut out the whites? What does that mean? What is this software doing, that cannot be done in Vegas?

Said that, i really do not understand this workflow. But maybe this other tools deliver something, that crashes Vegas?

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

JH26 wrote on 11/27/2024, 1:34 PM

I also wonder why it is necessay to use another software to cut out the whites? What does that mean? What is this software doing, that cannot be done in Vegas?

Said that, i really do not understand this workflow. But maybe this other tools deliver something, that crashes Vegas?

Cut out the silences, to remove all moments where there is no speech.

But I don't use the software at the same time. First I delete the silences and I get an xml file in addition to the video file and then I close the software and I start vegas pro.

JH26 wrote on 11/27/2024, 1:39 PM

@JH26 J'ai un ordinateur aux spécifications similaires, voir mon Signature. J'ai travaillé avec des séquences 10 bits 422 4K et je n'ai eu aucun crash ou problème, et je dis bien zéro. J'aurai Firefox ouvert avec Bitdefender et Malwarebytes exécutés en arrière-plan à tout moment.

Mes images proviennent d'un appareil photo Lumix G9, et cela ne m'a jamais posé de problème.

Mais il semble que vous utilisiez d'autres logiciels avec Vegas Pro, ce qui pourrait être la cause de vos problèmes. Et si vous ne l'utilisiez pas, quelles seraient les performances alors, en utilisant simplement les images brutes du GH5 ?

Ok interesting, so that would mean that it does not come from my configuration.

I do not use the other software at the same time, but one after the other. I open Vegas pro after finishing with the other software. From time to time I open Audacity at the same time, to quickly do a particular audio processing on a file, but I close it immediately.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 11/27/2024, 1:40 PM

Why is there any need, to cut out moments where there is no speech? Is there noise?

Such operations like to mute parts in the timeline in audio tracks can be done in Vegas. With different tools.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

JH26 wrote on 11/27/2024, 1:58 PM

Is it possible to automatically and easily delete all the parts of the video where there is no speech?

I found a plugin from vegasaur I think that could do that, but it was not as precise, and it is longer and more complicated to use than my software.

I record myself speaking in front of the camera. The text is on my computer screen, so each time I have to read in my head what is written and then I repeat it out loud while looking at the camera. That's why I use software to automatically delete all the parts where I read in my head what is written on my computer screen, that is to say all the silent parts.

I make Youtube videos and a lot of youtubers do it like that. Few of my colleagues use a teleprompter...

JH26 wrote on 12/1/2024, 6:23 AM

Okay, so the software that is cutting the clips for you isn't actually changing the footage but just giving you an XML?

When you get a crash is there an error reporter box with a message? Can you paste in the message here? If not and it just hangs you can hold down shift and under the options menu go to internal and change "hang detection" from FALSE to TRUE.

Are preferences/ file io on defaults with the AMD doing the decoding and legacy AVC/ experimental HEVC unchecked?

Foshot for that issue it might easier to understand what is going wrong.

Yes only an xml file. The video file is not modified.

A message like this: vegas pro no longer responds. And I have the choice between "wait" or "close the software".

"Are preferences/ file io on defaults with the AMD doing the decoding and legacy AVC/ experimental HEVC unchecked?" : Where do we find this?

Regarding audio, this problem appeared recently. Perhaps following one of the latest updates.

I have attached 2 images to the comment. 

I positioned the bottom audio file, so that it starts at the same time as the audio file just above. And we can see from the audio curves that after a few seconds there begins to be a delay between the audio file below and the one above. If we continue to look at the 2 curves further (we don't see it in the captures) they end up synchronizing again, then being out of sync again, a little more before or after. But the most surprising thing is that if we move around the interface with the mouse wheel we can see that it has an impact on the curve of the audio file. This shifts the curve or resynchronizes it with the file above, whereas simply zooming in/out and moving in the timeline should have no impact on the curves. And finally, the worst part is that afterwards, if we go back to the beginning of the audio file, we can realize that it is no longer synchronized with the audio file at the top, but that there is a lag .

RogerS wrote on 12/1/2024, 6:35 AM
 

"Are preferences/ file io on defaults with the AMD doing the decoding and legacy AVC/ experimental HEVC unchecked?" :

Where do we find this?

See the options menu, preferences and the file io tab.

Please try the images again.

john_dennis wrote on 12/1/2024, 8:51 AM

@JH26 Use this link to share some hard data about your crashes: View Reliability History