Markers Not Saved, Box Is Checked

david-murray wrote on 5/15/2017, 8:31 PM

I rendered my project to an MP4 using one of the Sony presets in Vegas 12. I think it was "Internet 1280X720." I did modify it to 59.940 fps, but otherwise, it's the same as the preset.

When I went to create a DVD from the resulting MP4 using DVD Architect 6, it could generate a scene menu based on the marker data, even though I checked the box before I rendered the file. I tested it again with a short file just to be certain.

I had to create a fresh set of markers in DVDA before I could make a scene menu.

Are there particular types of files that don't include marker data even when the box is checked? If so, why isn't the box greyed out when those particular presets are selected?

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john_dennis wrote on 5/15/2017, 10:06 PM

If you plan to make a DVD, you should use the Mainconcept MPEG-2 / DVD Architect NTSC Widescreen video stream template and the Dolby Digital Pro AC3 encoder template and render as separate elementary streams.

If you find yourself with inputs to DVD Architect that don't hold the markers, all is not lost.

You can change DVD Architect to look for markers in the audio file which is a much quicker render.

Hold the Control + Shift keys while selecting Options / Preferences in DVD Architect. You'll be presented with an Internal tab.

Watch this:

david-murray wrote on 5/16/2017, 12:52 AM

I was not aware I could ask DVDA to look for markers in the audio file rather than the video. Thanks for the info and the video link!

The Mainconcept DVDA widescreen preset is what I typically use, and I do always render a separate AC3 for audio as you mentioned.

I was only trying this different route today, because that's the workflow a friend said he uses. He believes he gets a better end result rendering to HD MP4 file from Vegas first, then doing the final compression for DVD within DVDA. (I realize it's going to end up as 720X480 on the DVD either way.) I just thought I'd give it a whirl, but then was disappointed when the markers didn't come along for the ride. I got to type in 28 chapter titles twice. If I ever use anything other than Mainconcept again, I'll know to flip markers to audio.

Thank you for the helpful response!

john_dennis wrote on 5/16/2017, 1:26 AM

"He believes he gets a better end result rendering to HD MP4 file from Vegas first, then doing the final compression for DVD within DVDA."

If your friend is so jazzed about the result from a DVD Architect encode of a lossey MP4 file (I'm not), suggest to him that he could render an uncompressed lossless file from Vegas Pro in real time.

1) Render your audio file with markers.

2) Use Debugmode Frame Server to pass uncompressed frames to DVD Architect.

3) Replace the audio with your real .ac3 file.

4) Load markers.

5) Do your encoding in DVD Architect and make your DVD.

If you have multiple titles in your DVD, you'll need multiple sessions of Vegas Pro frameserving to multiple file names. It's an interesting intellectual pursuit.

The visual: