New Install of SVM 17, Rendering Locks up?

Roger-Molina wrote on 1/3/2021, 12:16 PM

Just upgraded (download) to 17 (204) from 11 in Win10. First video, assembled. 55 mins long, 4.5GB, Stereo, One track of Video, several small text overlays, auto fade. 1st attempts (3x) resulted in "Unknown error, render cancelled". Next 2 attempts resulted in locked up render time line at 99%. What settings do I look at to try another route?

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j-v wrote on 1/3/2021, 12:23 PM

I think we can help you if you provide some more information what you are doing'
- Projectproperties
- MediaInfo of your sources, look here how to provide: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/
- Rendertarget and rendertemplate with codec?

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Roger-Molina wrote on 1/3/2021, 3:28 PM

Thank You for your quick response. I hope the following is the information you asked for.

The MediaInfo is from one segment of the converted native (Sony 8mm tape circa 80's).

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Roger\Documents\VHS to DVD\VCD_124143_0.mpg
Format                                   : MPEG-PS
File size                                : 222 KiB
Duration                                 : 1 s 335 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
Overall bit rate                         : 1 363 kb/s
Writing library                          : honestech

Video
ID                                       : 224 (0xE0)
Format                                   : MPEG Video
Format version                           : Version 1
Format settings                          : BVOP
Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
Format settings, Matrix                  : Default
Duration                                 : 1 s 335 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 112 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 1 150 kb/s
Width                                    : 352 pixels
Height                                   : 240 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.439
Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00:00
Time code source                         : Group of pictures header
Stream size                              : 181 KiB (82%)
Writing library                          : honestech

Audio
ID                                       : 192 (0xC0)

The Properties is from Movie Studio Time Line .vf file in timeline.

General
  Name: VCD_132641_0.mpg
  Folder: C:\Users\Roger\Documents\VHS to DVD
  Type: MainConcept MPEG-1
  Size: 334.14 MB (342,155,600 bytes)
  Created: Saturday, December 26, 2020, 1:26:42 PM
  Modified: Saturday, December 26, 2020, 1:59:37 PM
  Accessed: Saturday, December 26, 2020, 1:59:37 PM
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 00:32:47.098, 29.970 fps progressive, 352x240x32, MPEG-1
  Audio: 00:32:46.864, 44,100 Hz, Stereo, MPEG Layer 2

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: mcplug2.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\Movie Studio Platinum 17.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mcplug2
  Format: MainConcept MPEG-1
  Version: Version 17.0 (Build 204)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

I hope this makes your diagnosis easier. Thanx,

Roger

j-v wrote on 1/3/2021, 3:49 PM

I don't think you converted the files the right way.
Those kind of files i don't use since 2003 so I can't check.
For more help I think we need on a cloudservice from where we can download it as it is, a short original and converted file from that original Mpeg1

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver 566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 581.29 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 26.20.100.7985
Vegas software: VP 10 to 23 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

EricLNZ wrote on 1/3/2021, 4:50 PM

Also as j-v originally asked "- Rendertarget and rendertemplate with codec?"

Former user wrote on 1/3/2021, 9:25 PM

This was either captured or rendered as a VCD video which was video on a CD. At the time it was the only alternative to a DVD before DVDs became burnable. Shouldn't affect render though.

EricLNZ wrote on 1/4/2021, 2:43 AM

But what render template is being used? The only NTSC VCD 352x240 template appears to be QT7.

Roger-Molina wrote on 1/5/2021, 10:57 AM

As this is the first project on both this new CPU as well as new SW I anticipated some teething issues. I am ordering a Video Capture Card compatible with S connection and Composite, and ditching the USB dongle used in the current capture. That will take a middle step out of the process and will capture directly through VM. One question though! In looking at the "Add Media Button", it only talks about DV formats. Will it seamlessly capture Sony 8mm tape video (analog) played back on a Sony DCR-TRV310 Handycam? This camera can playback both analog and digital tapes, so not sure how capture will be performed on analog if that is how its transferred or does the camera convert to digital output?.