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Chienworks wrote on 9/23/2003, 7:12 AM
That "web safe" color chart is pretty old. All modern browsers (say, versions 2.0 and newer) will use whatever color bit depth the video display is set for. Since just about everyone out there runs 24 bit color these days, and just about everyone out there has upgraded to at least MSIE 2, Netscape 2 (or it's Mozilla equivalent), or possibly even something newer than that (I myself use MSIE 6 and Netscape 7), just about every web viewer will see full 24 bit color on their screens.

Probably no serious web designer has worried about 8 bit dithering and web safe palattes for a couple of years or more.
Jay Gladwell wrote on 9/23/2003, 8:02 AM
BB, I wasn't ranting and I wasn't bellyaching. And more of us have knowledge and understanding than you seem to be willing to give us credit for.

You are very quick to jump all over folks when they make harmless, hopefully humorous, remarks yet you expect everyone to take your noxious, cutting remarks as innocent humor. It ain't happenin'.

Remember, people who live in glass houses... well, you know the rest.
BillyBoy wrote on 9/23/2003, 8:56 AM
The point that flew over the head of several wannabe "experts" is you DON'T KNOW what browser or browser version the end user is using. There are many more browsers in use then you may be aware of.

See: http://browsers.evolt.org/

I give credit to those that DESERVE it by them demostrating their knowledge, expertise and their general coduct and willingness to help in this fourm. Some here obviously are here only to rant and complaint. I'll stand on my posting record and compare it to anybody's anytime.

People starting SILLY threads as you did where you say you 'shudder' over the choice of colors of the web site hosting the forums you wish to participate in shows a lack lf tack and common sense and is RUDE to the person or persons that no doubt spent many hours developing and testing it. If you don't like it, you can to some extent change it... if you know how. Apparently you don't know how, so I offered a method.

I commented appropriatedly to it being ranting.

Currious, it seems all my critics think they have a right to critique me, but can't handle themselves being critiqued. Read your original remarks and those you said later (drab," "boring," "cold," "lifeless" again and ask youself if it wasn't rude and uncalled for and probably offensive to the person/persons that redesigned the site.

I call it like I see it . YOU were rude.

Bobpin wrote on 9/23/2003, 9:20 AM
Gentlemen,Gentlemen , enough !!

I visit this forum almost everynight to pickup hints to master Vegas as between here and the MANUAL I am gradually getting there,whenever I have asked ,the right answer has been given and I thank you all,BUT of late it all seems to be mostly Bickering and I find there is not a lot of actual advise being given ,so I think I will be reading a bit more Manual and check here a little less.
Regarding the new look, IMO I don't think it matters what it looks like as long as it is Functional and most times is certainally is, so I can I ask all you regular Contributors to contribute your expertise on Vegas so that in the future us Newbies can also become contributors. Sorry if I offend anyone but as I stated I visit here to LEARN

Bob
Jay Gladwell wrote on 9/23/2003, 9:29 AM
I was using hyperbole. Ever heard of "hyperbole"?

As so many others have pointed out here, you, of all people, are in no postion to call anyone "RUDE" or anything else.

However, you have the right to your opinion, and I respect that. By the same token, I have the right to mine (as do the rest of us), and you ought to respect that as well.

Try practicing what you preach for a change.
BillyBoy wrote on 9/23/2003, 9:32 AM
Now you stoop to name calling. Showing your true colors? Seems like it. Complaints about how the forum looks, runs, etc., should be sent via email to Sony .Ever hear of email or do you get off whining in public?
Jay Gladwell wrote on 9/23/2003, 9:35 AM
Yep, all 16 million of them!
MJhig wrote on 9/23/2003, 9:51 AM
TheHappyFriar says;

"Is anyone having problems with threads not showing up as read? I seem to be having that problem. But.. the individual posts in the thread show read. Hmm..."

Quoting myself from WOW! Look at our New Suit of Clothes!;

"I too like the new look. It looks current, understated, professional and pleasing. I was afraid it would end up like the Screenblast site with MTV like animation screaming at me with teenage 3 second cuts from every direction. Nice work.

I do have a problem with telling the difference between visited and unvisited links. I can't tell if they all look bold or don't but they all look the same to me and it does seem to take a bit longer to load the pages now from my dial-up connection. Hopefully this is just because it's not all sorted out yet"

MJ
BillyBoy wrote on 9/23/2003, 5:14 PM
Actually I didn't really play around with it, just dumped some old CSS file I had handy to see if it would work. If you want to get creative the following is probably a good quicke site followed by a more meat and potatoes site that has lots of specifics.

Like HTML CSS is just simple markup, not really programming. I'm kind of surprised it overwrote the JS scripting that Sony Media uses.

But it apparently does. The only thing a little tricky about CSS is the syntext like in HTML has to be right or nothing happens. So spacing, and those pesky { } matter as does the colon.

Anyhow, check this out:

http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1

For those that may not know, the W3C
http://www.w3.org/

Is theWorld Wide Web Consortium. While not a governing body with any weight of law behind it, so they can't force anybody to do what they suggest, their RECOMENDATIONS do carry a lot of wieght and the group does have a lot of influence on what becomes part of "official" HTML and related things.

Many of the RTC's (request for comments) relative to much of what happens with the underlying technology of what drives the web and how it works goes through this group.

If you even have trouble falling asleep, read one of the the highly technical documents at the site that follows on how it all came to be.

Official Internet Protocol Standards
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcxx00.html

bobojones wrote on 9/23/2003, 9:14 PM
I've touched briefly on BB's lack of technical understanding and these statements support that assertion. They are total nonsense.

> 1. You can't get 16 million colors to reproduce on a web browser

> in fact the choices are rather limited and most people authoring web pages (professionally) stay within a so-called 'web safe' palette of just 216 colors or minor varations from that base.