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IAM4UK wrote on 9/7/2022, 1:52 PM

Also interested in this... I purchased the iZotope Everything Bundle recently, and they offered to include RX 10 Advanced and Ozone 10 Advanced for doing that big purchase. I have not yet learned from them how to obtain RX 10 Advanced. But a very interesting new feature (for this podcaster) is something that shows TEXT aligned with the spectrum or waveform display... not sure how that would work, but it seems cool.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 9/7/2022, 5:25 PM

I dropped using Izotope's line of plugins a while back, mainly because it saps so much of the computer resources. It is a bit too much CPU processing hog, With each new version demanding more and more...... Surprisingly i am using easier and better audio plugins in my audio workflow.

IAM4UK wrote on 9/7/2022, 5:25 PM

@Grazie
I got in touch with iZotope, and they corrected the "portal" info to grant me the promised RX 10 Advanced. Installed it, licenced it, and set it to use my sound hardware. Brief testing of two new features:
Text mode actually does work. It provides a line of sample text from the audio recording of a voice or voices, located above the spectrograph/waveform display. Cool
Repair Assistant is similar (but not quite the same) as "Repair Assistants" from programs like Nectar and Ozone. And it works! It can be configured to include or exclude certain basic modular functionality, as you choose. Very, very handy.
Much more testing to be done, of course. But my first impression is that RX 10 Advanced actually delivers on some of the time-saving features they claim. As an upgrade, I'd consider it worthy of serious consideration. (As a promised freebie for my recent purchase, of course, it was a non-issue; I am glad to have it.)

Grazie wrote on 9/7/2022, 5:45 PM

Found this "just-now" Don Baarns video on Facebook. Thanks Don!

1 - Looks like the new "Repair Assistant" can be revealed within your DAW. This must also mean for VP20 too?

2 - "Speech to Text" worth a look . . . early days. The core is there but needs tweaking. It will search phrases. VooDoo.

3 - "Feathering" - Now THAT'S for me. Allows for gradation on INs and OUTs edits. Far more natural

4 - "Spectral Recovery" -

5 - "Dialogue Dereverb" - I already have this in RX9 Adv, maybe it is been tweaked too.

6 - Migrates RX9 Presets now happens automatically!!!

My Credit Card is quaking in my wallet 😏

IAM4UK wrote on 9/7/2022, 7:02 PM

@Grazie 

I can confirm that RX 10 Repair Assistant works as a plug-in in VP20. (And it should work in Sound Forge Pro, also.) I had to take some steps to get it to run the first time: Re-scan plug-ins. Restart VP20. Apply the RX 10 Repair Assistant to a section of audio on the VP20 timeline; manually authorize via my iLok license USB stick. Restart VP20. Open a project with some audio, re-apply the Repair Assistant as a plug-in, play audio, and click "Learn" on the Repair Assistant interface. It works now, and the results are very tailorable and sound quite good.

Grazie wrote on 9/7/2022, 11:40 PM

@IAM4UK - Wow, that was a bit of registration palava!? But you purchased the expensive bundle, so you’d have to segment the RX10 ADV slice, I can see that.

@IAM4UK - Your Take on Takes: I’m very interested to see/hear just how manipulative/successful from within VP20 the new Repair Assistant really works. Up to now I’ve been round-tripping into RX9ADV and coming back in as Take. I don’t see that this would be coming from the Plugin Repair Assistant. What do you see happening? Do you get Takes appearing? I’m still erring on the side of the extra round-tripping, to get all those finer refining tools.

The Feathering sounds and looks great. The other “new” features could be appealing to me as well as that extra Tool.

I’m wavering, but my loyalty discount could just kick me over the buying decision N-Zone. However, the extra UK Tax is pulling me back. Would RX10Adv sit on my PC, just languishing, looking for something to do? Maybe I should also see that a purchase is simply the option for me for future proofing my iZotope Road Map.

Look, I’ve got till October to finally make a decision.

Grazie wrote on 9/8/2022, 1:14 AM

I'm getting convinced:

Dexcon wrote on 9/8/2022, 5:50 AM

Many thanks @Grazie for your feedback on RX10. Speech to Text looks very useful - an amazing and most unexpected new feature; and feathering will definitely be helpful. Re-synthesizing missing frequencies could be useful as well.

Even though many RX plugins function in Vegas Pro, I still prefer (maybe just by habit) to do RX editing in RX itself and import into Vegas Pro the .wav audio exported from RX. Two reasons: 1/ Avoids any Vegas Pro rendering delays/problems; and 2/ if I ever need to go back to the project in years to come, it may be necessary to reinstall the older RX version in order to VP to access the plugin used at the time.

And this year, loyalty upgrade pricing to RX10 Adv is very good.

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Dexcon wrote on 9/8/2022, 6:37 AM

NB (note well): RX10 System Requirements for RX10 state:

Plugin Formats

AU, AAX, AAX Audiosuite, VST3, AU ARA (Spectral Editor ARA & Music Rebalance ARA)*.

* All plug-in formats are 64-bit only. VST2 is no longer supported.

(I've added the highlighting in the quotes above and below.)

It therefore follows that RX10 plugins will only function in Vegas Pro 20 which has VST3 functionality though that functionality is currently only in Beta mode. It also therefore follows that RX10 plugins will not function in Vegas Pro 19 and earlier.

.And:

RX 10 Audio Editor Plug-in Hosting

AU and VST2 plug-ins can be hosted in the RX Audio Editor

Note: VST2 plug-in hosting will be deprecated and replaced with VST3 plug-in hosting in a future RX 10 patch

https://www.izotope.com/en/products/rx.html

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IAM4UK wrote on 9/8/2022, 7:34 AM

@Grazie
Regarding Takes: I don't think using RX10 RA as a plug-in within VP20 results in a new Take; however, you could copy the audio track to a new audio track, run RX10 RA on that, and Mute the track which is less appealing.

All, generally: RX10 adds this new potential choice for workflow. For each user, their preferred workflow will be a matter of choice, and only one option will be "best." I am glad for the new option provided by RX10.

One part of RX that I use often (Loudness Control) is still available ONLY within the RX program. I prefer the results I get from that Loudness Control routine, as compared to the Normalization routines within SF Pro, for example.

Grazie wrote on 9/8/2022, 8:33 AM

@IAM4UK

Thanks.

bvideo wrote on 9/20/2022, 11:13 AM

RX10 (9, 8, ... ) editor still doesn't have any way to set a loop independent of the selection. So I am editing a glitch, say 1/2 second long in an irregular selection (freq + time + painting) and I can't listen to it in the context of a longer phrase without losing the very selection I am editing.

bitman wrote on 9/24/2022, 5:07 AM

@Grazie Have you already spent your money on RX 10 upgrade?

@IAM4UK @bvideo

I got RX9 advanced, but I am hesitating to upgrade. My favorite in rx9 advanced is dewind for outside mike wind noise, but it seems there is no new dewind in RX10, and dewind is still a as plugin I presume.

Is it perhaps available via the new audio repair plugin in RX10?

Also, the text generated from speech guidance looks fascinating. However, in my case any speech will be mostly Dutch, I know only English is supported, but I hope some recognizable phonetic gibberish would be generated that is somewhat useful in my case, can someone test this with a foreign language sound clip (preferably Dutch)?

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Grazie wrote on 9/24/2022, 6:04 AM

@bitman - Yes.

IAM4UK wrote on 9/24/2022, 12:12 PM

@bitman RX 10 includes De-Wind. However, I cannot say that it is different from the De-Wind Module in RX 9.

redpaw wrote on 4/28/2023, 1:54 PM

Hey guys, sorry for resurrecting this thread... i'm thinking of upgrading my RX7 to RX10 advanced (with De-wind being the main selling point), but after installing the trial version there's only 15 rapair modules that show up in vegas (out of 26 that i can see in the stand alone version). And that's the only ones that appear as vst3 files in c:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\iZotope\

So I'm just wondering if you guys can see de-wind in vegas as a plugin ?

Grazie wrote on 4/28/2023, 2:40 PM

Hmmm 🤔. Do it!!! in VP you can choose what Audio Editor you want, and then it’s an easy case of editing the Audio Event as a Take, and THEN you have ALL the goodies in RX10Adv at your disposal! Marvellous.

redpaw wrote on 4/28/2023, 3:28 PM

Thanks @Grazie. So, de-wind doesnt work like de-clip or de-noise where you can just add it as a fx.
i've been using those from rx7 and loved the simplicity of it... and was hoping that de-wind would be done the same way... not sure why it can't be, but wanted to check if it's not maybe just the limitation of the trial version.

Grazie wrote on 4/28/2023, 3:35 PM

Maybe it does?

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 4/28/2023, 3:42 PM

You guys need to check out this small free AI noise reducer / voice separator VST tool, and kick Izotope RX to the curb, lol, they are just getting more and more bloated while other tools are slowly surpassing them.

The tool i am speaking of is called "Goyo voice separator" and can be downloaded here: https://goyo.app/ Makes Izotope RX looks like a little baby. Its versatility is right up there comparable to Waves Clarity Vx Pro.

Grazie wrote on 4/28/2023, 8:34 PM

@Steve_Rhoden - Thanks for that! I’ll give a go 😊

RogerS wrote on 4/28/2023, 9:50 PM

Hey guys, sorry for resurrecting this thread... i'm thinking of upgrading my RX7 to RX10 advanced (with De-wind being the main selling point), but after installing the trial version there's only 15 rapair modules that show up in vegas (out of 26 that i can see in the stand alone version). And that's the only ones that appear as vst3 files in c:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\iZotope\

So I'm just wondering if you guys can see de-wind in vegas as a plugin ?

Is that where dewind is kept? You can select multiple VST folders for VEGAS to look through. I assume you're on VP 20.370.

I'm on RX9 Standard so can't test that VST.

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Dexcon wrote on 4/28/2023, 11:34 PM

From iZotope's RX10 webpage: https://www.izotope.com/en/products/rx/features.html#compare

... the features with a single asterisk ' * ' are available as a plugin (see the legend at the bottom of the comparison list). There is no asterisk attached to De-wind.

But as @Grazie noted:

... in VP you can choose what Audio Editor you want, and then it’s an easy case of editing the Audio Event as a Take, and THEN you have ALL the goodies in RX10Adv at your disposal

Indeed, in Vegas Pro you can set RX as your preferred audio editor in Options/Preferences/Audio which enables direct access to RX from the audio event on Vegas Pro's timeline by R clicking the audio event and selecting "Open in Audio Editor" or "Open Copy in Audio Editor", the latter creating a copy of the audio event thus leaving the original audio event as is.

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andyrpsmith wrote on 4/29/2023, 4:32 AM

I was editing a trip to harry Potter Studios in March, very windy so used RX7 and RX10 voice denoise. Found that RX7 works correctly with V20-370 but RX10 does not. when using RX10 the video image in preview stops while the sound continues. The analysis eventually completes and you are handed back the the video image. with RX7 it all works correctly with sound and image displayed during the analysis. (this is in learn mode which is my preferred mode).

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