OT: Got sample video from Canon Vixia G30?

Rich Parry wrote on 6/30/2014, 11:38 PM
I'm very close to buying the Canon Vixia HF G30, maybe this week, but would like to get an out of the camera sample video file first, ideally 1080P 24fps (28Mbps or higher) either MP4 or AVCHD format, both would be great.

I've done some Google searches and found some G30 video files, but they were all PAL 50P format. I'd like to get a format that I will actually be editing in in Vegas.

I have read/watched a lot of reviews and know there are pluses and minuses to the camera, but I don't think I will be too far off with the G30. Cost is not a major issue. I shoot by myself outdoors, mostly wildlife/nature videography in National Parks. I have been a Canon DSLR guy for a decade and the 20x zoom of the camcorder is a big plus.

Thanks in advance,
Rich in San Diego

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Grazie wrote on 7/1/2014, 1:27 AM
Go to a store that will allow you to use your own SD card and record a "selection" to that. This is what I do when I'm researching a new camera.

Grazie

Rory Cooper wrote on 7/1/2014, 4:07 AM
Yes absolutely Grazie in fact the camera guys expect you to do just that. And they won’t rush you.
OldSmoke wrote on 7/1/2014, 7:35 AM
Parry

I have plenty of G30 footage, mostly in 1080 60p. I can put a few clips on Goggle drive for you. However, I sold it and got myself an AX100. The main reasons for that where the rather soft image and poor low light ability, both I attribute to the rather small sensor. Also the AX100 has fully controllable ND filters. If you are not into 4K, the HDR-CX900 is the same camera without it. I did a short review on B&H on the AX100 about the few things I didn't like but the image quality, stunning.

Edit:
Here is the link to some sample footage on Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bz4okF1D_ux5dVNrTm5SdEVGWU0&usp=sharing
There are 5 clips each shoot in AVCHD and MP4.

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Rich Parry wrote on 7/1/2014, 10:06 AM
OldSmoke,

I have downloaded your 10 video clips from Google Drive, later today I will put them on a Vegas timeline and experiment a little.

I did look at the CX900 as an option, but dismissed it because I shoot with a lot of Canon gear and low light wasn't a critical factor since I shoot outdoors and the 20x zoom of the Canon would come in handy for my wildlife shooting.

Thanks,
Rich

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OldSmoke wrote on 7/1/2014, 12:00 PM
Parry.

The Sony has a 24x when set to Clear Image Scan and that is great too. I would still say that the Sony has the better image quality, especially for outdoors and wildlife and XAVC-S at 60MB beats the AVHCD and MP4 of G30 anytime. Especially fully zoomed in, the Canon has a lot of lens aberration.

Have a look at the clips and let me know how you feel. I can always upload some clips from my AX100 shot at 1080 60p XAVC-S.

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Rich Parry wrote on 7/4/2014, 12:46 AM
OldSmoke,

I will do as suggest and look at the Sony, in the meantime, can you tell me why you shoot at 60p? My final video will be 23.976 so I don't see a need for 60p unless you are doing slow motion video. Is there some other reason for shooting 60p that I am missing?

I am predominately a "still image" photographer so that may explain my "newbie" video question.

thanks,
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OldSmoke wrote on 7/4/2014, 7:59 AM
R R,

I shoot in 60P because I can covert it to anything I need, 1080 60i or 720 60p for BD, 1080 60i for DVD, 30p for Internet and even 50p/50i looks good when converted from 60p. I never felt the need for 24p and I honestly don't like the "strobing" either. I shot a couple of tests in 24p outdoors, it was a windy day and the brunches and leaves of the trees looked terrible. 60p makes for a very smooth image and to me feels more live like.
If you are someone that loves clear and crisp images, the FDR-AX100 in 4K will deliver exactly that. Even if you don't deliver or watch 4K, the downsized images to 1080p or even 720p are by far better then from a 1080 camera. It also gives you a lot of room in post for color correction, a little bit more for pan&crop too. I have a planed a trip to the Grand Canyon and I will be shooting 4K all the way. The AX100 does it in 24p and 30p only, I will be shooting 30p and see how that goes.
One more thing that really had me going for the Sony compared to the Canon is the still image quality, 20MP is really nice!

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john_dennis wrote on 7/4/2014, 8:15 AM
"...[I]and the brunches..."

So, when is Brunch? I'm hungry.

I looked at the AX100 briefly last evening.
OldSmoke wrote on 7/4/2014, 10:04 AM
John

You know... all the birds having brunch. Sorry, was typing it on my iPhone but turned out funny.

I seriously love my AX100 aside from the view issue I have with it, I made a review on B&H under Oldsmoke. The latest firmware update addresses a couple of issues like the slow zoom. What impressed too was the fast WiFi transfer to my iPad which took ages with the G30. Would love to see a lens hood with door like the G30, come on Sony!

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john_dennis wrote on 7/4/2014, 10:33 AM
On the lens hood:
Aside from any prevention of lens flare, it would help keep fingers out of the field of view. I managed to get my finger in the field of view when operating the manual ring. Of course, I have virtually zero experience with video camera form factors.
OldSmoke wrote on 7/4/2014, 2:35 PM
Actually the lens hood on the G30 was so close to the lens ring that it was almost impossible to use the ring without making a "scratching" sound that the mic would then record. Somehow a finger or your palm would always rub against the hood. There is another issue I had with the G30. If you switch to manual zoom and use the ring to zoom in and out, very important for my sport events, it can take more then 180 degrees to zoom 0-100% which made it impossible to use. I had to use the rocker and that didn't go so well.

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OldSmoke wrote on 7/4/2014, 6:18 PM
Here is a link for some 4K samples I took today. http://docs.google.com/folderview?id=0Bz4okF1D_ux5V1FnQUxnVGpEZkE&usp=docslist_api

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