PAN & CROP masking giving weird results in Preview (Half)

iEmby wrote on 10/8/2024, 11:17 PM

Guys pls check.

this is now happening with PAN & CROP masking.

sometimes it happens with other OFXs.

even I am running VEGAS in Legacy Mode.

specially I got frustrated when this happens in some urgent work.

bcoz in some projects i can't run in Best_Full.

please guide me what is wrong here.

thanks..

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3POINT wrote on 10/8/2024, 11:58 PM

Do you see the issue also in preview best/half?

iEmby wrote on 10/10/2024, 1:23 AM

Do you see the issue also in preview best/half?

not in full.. i checked in other preview settings.

its more weird.

please look at this....

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3POINT wrote on 10/10/2024, 4:20 AM

@iEmby sorry that goes to fast for my old eyes...is at least the final render okay? For an accurate preview I would suggest to pre-render first.

iEmby wrote on 10/10/2024, 4:22 AM

its not about final output sir.. its about i want to use preview settings upto Preview (Half).. so it cause issues for me ..

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3POINT wrote on 10/10/2024, 4:28 AM

its not about final output sir.. its about i want to use preview settings upto Preview (Half).. so it cause issues for me ..

When only preview half gives that issue, than don't use preview half.

iEmby wrote on 10/10/2024, 5:14 AM

its not about final output sir.. its about i want to use preview settings upto Preview (Half).. so it cause issues for me ..

When only preview half gives that issue, than don't use preview half.

sir from preview full .. my playback is hanging.. not so smooth

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3POINT wrote on 10/10/2024, 6:22 AM

its not about final output sir.. its about i want to use preview settings upto Preview (Half).. so it cause issues for me ..

When only preview half gives that issue, than don't use preview half.

sir from preview full .. my playback is hanging.. not so smooth

Therefore I suggested to prerender (SHIFT+B for RAM Preview or SHIFT+M for selective Prerender) those sections to get a smooth FULL preview.

I know there's an issue at the moment with SHIFT+M selective prerender, (a colour shift), but I'm sure that this issue is solved in a coming update.

iEmby wrote on 10/10/2024, 6:26 AM

so are we considering this an issue which i am facing or it should be reproduced?

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RogerS wrote on 10/10/2024, 7:26 AM

Could you offer a sample project showing the issue? I don't do enough masking (or work in preview quality) enough to encounter this normally.

wilri001 wrote on 10/10/2024, 8:35 AM

I'm on build 122 of v22 and preview window in preview/draft mode using a proxy shows video in tiny lower left corner. It's as if there is no compensation for the proxy being a lower resolution. So defeats the use of proxy.
Only happens if a crop or other fx is applied.

john_dennis wrote on 10/10/2024, 10:54 AM

@iEmby

Share your project. If it is reproduceable, problem source identification may be forthcoming.

iEmby wrote on 10/12/2024, 10:14 PM

Sorry for the late reply. I was busy.

this is the link of my project.

https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/8101af44-1e72-4e50-a871-a1fe20138108

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RogerS wrote on 10/12/2024, 10:47 PM

even I am running VEGAS in Legacy Mode.

What do you mean by legacy mode? Legacy AVC decoder? It looks the same here with legacy AVC checked or unchecked.

I tried to redo the mask (started over) and didn't see a difference between best/full and preview/full or preview half:

In case it matters I did get a warning that I don't have these plugins which the project uses somewhere:

{Svfx:com.borisfx:BCC6Swish_Pan} - Transition
{Svfx:com.borisfx:BCC6Swish_Pan} - Transition
{Svfx:com.borisfx:BCC6Swish_Pan} - Transition
{Svfx:com.borisfx:BCC6Swish_Pan} - Transition
{Svfx:com.borisfx:BCC6Swish_Pan} - Transition
{Svfx:com.borisfx:BCC6Swish_Pan} - Transition
{Svfx:com.borisfx:BCC6Swish_Pan} - Transition

The original project looks like this which I assume is not what it's supposed to look like (best/full; preview/full are the same)

Tested with RTX 4060 mobile GPU. Wonder if there's a GPU driver issue here?

Last changed by RogerS on 10/12/2024, 10:54 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

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iEmby wrote on 10/12/2024, 11:01 PM

I don't know but i am facing this issue in this project only. not in any other project.

as you said.

The original project looks like this which I assume is not what it's supposed to look like

it can be cause of GPU drivers.

wanna see other user's feedback.

thanks @RogerS

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john_dennis wrote on 10/13/2024, 1:20 AM

@iEmby  I was able to get this result but it's too late to 'splane how I did it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ViSfBH_sfhpw9yDujAyven3z9iii3xJb/view?usp=drive_link

john_dennis wrote on 10/13/2024, 1:53 AM

Actually, just put these files into your project folder and run Reel-1 4K JAD.veg.

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iEmby wrote on 10/13/2024, 2:07 AM

@john_dennis

i just get a mp4 file

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Gid wrote on 10/13/2024, 2:45 AM

@iEmby Hi,

This is what i get with all Preview options

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I soled track 5, disabled masks & restored Pan/crop settings on the two MP4's C0151 & C0152 & rendered them out separately as 2160x3840 25fps files, then used right click Replace in Project media to exchange the two events on the timeline with the newly rendered versions, this was the result, I'm not sure if this is the desired result.

Basically I recoded C0151 & C0152

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john_dennis wrote on 10/13/2024, 8:21 AM

@iEmby See, I knew it was too late. The Project Link. I nested C0151 and C0152.

iEmby wrote on 10/13/2024, 9:43 AM

thanks guys. for try my project.

but what is the reason of this issue..

my raw videos or clips

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john_dennis wrote on 10/13/2024, 11:39 AM
  • Rotating XAVC UHD source files 90 degrees counterclockwise on the fly puts a burden on your system.
General
Complete name                            : F:\Preview Quality Error MASKING\C0151.MP4
Format                                   : XAVC
Codec ID                                 : XAVC (XAVC/mp42/iso2)
File size                                : 56.0 MiB
Duration                                 : 4 s 320 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 109 Mb/s
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Encoded date                             : 2024-09-12 11:42:45 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-09-12 11:42:45 UTC

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 2 frames
Format settings, Slice count             : 8 slices per frame
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 4 s 320 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 100.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.482
Stream size                              : 51.3 MiB (92%)
Encoded date                             : 2024-09-12 11:42:45 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-09-12 11:42:45 UTC
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : xvYCC
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Metas                                    : 3
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Big / Signed
Codec ID                                 : twos
Duration                                 : 4 s 320 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 810 KiB (1%)
Encoded date                             : 2024-09-12 11:42:45 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-09-12 11:42:45 UTC

Other
ID                                       : 3
Type                                     : meta
Format                                   : Sony Real Time Metadata
Codec ID                                 : rtmd
Duration                                 : 4 s 320 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Time code of first frame                 : 02:03:35;13
Encoded date                             : 2024-09-12 11:42:45 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-09-12 11:42:45 UTC
TransferCharacteristics_FirstFrame       : xvYCC
ColorPrimaries_FirstFrame                : BT.709
MatrixCoefficients_FirstFrame            : BT.709
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FocusPositionFromImagePlane_FirstFrame   : 1.490 m
AutoExposureMode_FirstFrame              : Manual
AutoFocusSensingAreaSetting_FirstFrame   : Center Sensitive Auto
ShutterSpeed_Time_FirstFrame             : 1/100 s
CameraMasterGainAdjustment_FirstFrame    : 9.00 dB
ISOSensitivity_FirstFrame                : 320
ElectricalExtenderMagnification_FirstFra : 100%
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  • Convert C0151 and C0152 to portrait mode in a separate process and render to ProRes or MagicYUV without the audio. You could use your final output render pixel dimensions (1080x1920) to produce a smaller file size for this intermediate step.
  • I still don't understand what all the clip duplication and masking is about with C0151.
john_dennis wrote on 10/13/2024, 12:55 PM

As cool as it is to just throw a bunch of files onto the timeline and edit away, sometimes it's more sensible to prepare your media ahead of time.

iEmby wrote on 10/22/2024, 10:15 PM

Ok guys....

I faced it again...

this time it is not rotated or of another aspect ratio.

please look at this.

sometimes I can't toggle (Full) due to effects.

and preview render is not good idea while playback checking of project.

As cool as it is to just throw a bunch of files onto the timeline and edit away, sometimes it's more sensible to prepare your media ahead of time.

I have at least more than 50 videos which I can render I don't have time. to prepare my media.

this error even happened at my office where NVIDIA graphic card installed.

Please fix this issue.

this is that media.. pls check

https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/3a6b08b5-6cf4-4b97-a912-9c7b4e3b1ea7

Last changed by iEmby on 10/22/2024, 10:22 PM, changed a total of 3 times.

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Gid wrote on 10/23/2024, 12:42 AM

@iEmby Sorry can't help, I have no problem with that file.

PS. when you show Pan/Crop in your videos can you expand the settings so it's easier to see what you've got/changed👍

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