Silliness aside, while we don't plan to remove this feature anytime soon, clearly it's the double-click on event edges that trips you guys up most often, and you've shared some good ideas on how we might solve that piece of it and thus "fix" this for everyone.
Yes you're right!
Removing any feature is nonsense.
Just please understand that double-clicking is a really unfortunate way.
Thank you for changing it in the future.
The ideal way is to enable and disable in Option Preferences.
:-)
@GaryRebholz - And yet, notwithstanding “silliness”, we did get your attention. Thank you for stepping in. Humour aside, I’ve been reading the times that this feature has tripped people up, myself included, and wished for better, I always will for VegasPro.
@pierre-k - The Preferences solution is a great way forward.
Thanks Gary, it is disconcerting to enter the mode by accident and not know how to get back out.
@GaryRebholz Hello Gary!!....the problem for me, and someone mentioned as well, is the "return" to "normal." I might have the F11 full Track view, and it messes that up, and goes back to 'default' view and sets my Mackie Control into a tizzy (a whole nuther subject). And the adjustment back towards "normal" is slow as well. It the track would simply expand and retract, without upsetting the whole screen architecture (and this does not pertain to just this feature, which I appreciate) in so doing, I would think everyone, including me, would settle right down.
It is helpful feature for me that I like to use. Apart from the sometimes slow return to "normal" function, there could be another problem. How it looks, the return via Num + 5 or ESC is only possible if the focus is on the TL. That is not always the case when the function was called. Then you have to first click on the TL before the buttons work. Users who do not know this confuse that, sometimes it works and sometimes not.
In the newly introduced Easy Editing Mode, this function also creates only confusion.
Some fine tuning and the ability to disable this function in the internal settings for those who do not like it, would be a real improvement.
For the record; you always have my attention. I don't reply to everything posted here on the forums, but that doesn't mean I am not listening. Same goes for the VEGAS team in general. Thanks for all of the input on this. We'll discuss it here and see what we can do to make it better.
@gary-rebholz ... thank you so much for listening. Any way to turn EEM on/off would be much appreciated.
We'll discuss it here and see what we can do to make it better.
@gary-rebholz - "Better" is great! I'll take that to the Bank.
Just another quick vote from me to have a means to turn off the "double click" method of invoking this feature. I'm often invoking it by accident.
I guess I'm the only one who has a bigger problem with the keyboard Numeric key 5 assignment for this expanded edit mode feature since I use keyboard key assignments more than I use my mouse. Has NUM 5 being assigned to the expanded edit mode view made any sense to anyone because I have always struggled trying to understand the logic behind it?
The numeric keypad functions are laid out so numeric 1,4,7 are used to control functions which control something which will move in the LEFT direction. Numeric Keypad 3,5,9 will move in the RIGHT direction. Then you have Numeric Key pad 2 and 8 moving DOWN and UP. That all makes logical sense because it mirrors the way the numeric keypad is laid out. Then you have the numeric Keypad 5 located right in the CENTER of all those directional keys and pressing it opens expanded edit mode?
To me, what would have been a much more logical assignment for Keypad NUM 5 would have been "CENTER CURSOR" but instead Center Cursor is assigned to the "." key on the Numeric Keypad, which is located at the bottom right of the numeric keypad and to add to that confusion even more, the Center Cursor assignment on the standard QWERTY keyboard is also assigned to the "\" key and not the "." key. What the?
When this entire expanded edit mode was implemented, it seems like it must have been done by a newly hired developer because it seems they didn't have the background experience of what has always made Vegas more logical to use and easier to remember functions through keyboard assignments and right click menu option selections.
Are you using Ten-Key Editing as described in Douglas Spotted Eagle's Vegas Pro 11 editing workshop when the Num 5 key is causing problems? Exactly for Ten-Key Editing fits this key assignment.
+1 please! When I accedently double tap with my Wacom pen on a corner, it pops in! Very anoying.
Are you using Ten-Key Editing as described in Douglas Spotted Eagle's Vegas Pro 11 editing workshop when the Num 5 key is causing problems? Exactly for Ten-Key Editing fits this key assignment.
Unsure what you are referring to, I have never watched one of Spots editing workshop videos. I have been using Vegas to edit this way from its initial releases but admittedly strayed away from Vegas for a duration of time when this advanced edit mode was conceived. Spot was always one trying to come up with ways to capitalize on making a living by producing Vegas tutorials, books, scripts, etc where I was typically on the audio Vegas forums just assisting others for free with similar information.
+1 for option in preferences to turn it off. Just like that.
There is only one situation when I can accidentally click LMB (left mouse button) more than once -- I'm playing FPS (first person shooter) like Dead Space. Never clicking mouse buttons twice otherwise :)
And I did not even knew that the EEM exists in VP after years of using it %-)