Please send Expanded Edit Mode (EEM) into Deprecated Tab.

Grazie wrote on 10/6/2019, 11:54 PM

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Anybody using this EEM? Anybody annoyed that it keeps poking its head in when not required and finding it breaks your concentration?

Cheers - G

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Dexcon wrote on 10/7/2019, 2:05 AM

+1 ... EEM is so annoying when I accidentally activate it by unintentionally double-clicking on the side frame of an event.

That's a really great idea to allow switching it on/off via the Deprecated tab, and much more user-friendly than switching it via Internal Preferences which was called for a few years ago.

j-v wrote on 10/7/2019, 2:53 AM

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walter-i. wrote on 10/7/2019, 6:59 AM

+1 ... EEM is so annoying when I accidentally activate it by unintentionally double-clicking on the side frame of an event.

That's a really great idea to allow switching it on/off via the Deprecated tab, and much more user-friendly than switching it via Internal Preferences which was called for a few years ago.

+1 - absolutely useless for me, a Dinosaur

redpaw wrote on 10/7/2019, 7:13 AM

+1 - totally agree.

Richard Jones wrote on 10/7/2019, 7:58 AM

A very usdeful tool. It was introduced in Version 12 and one of Sony's accmpanying tutorials (Gary Ribholz) gave an excellent demonstration of its usefulness. The use of 5 on the numerical keypad makes it easy to restore the screen to normal.

Richard

Kinvermark wrote on 10/7/2019, 9:46 AM

I use it. Sorry :(

pierre-k wrote on 10/7/2019, 9:58 AM

this feature annoys me. In a complex project, it takes a very long time to return from Expanded to normal mode. Up to 20 seconds. Please change the keyboard shortcut. Double clicking the mouse in Vegas is the punishment of God.

I suggest for example Triple click mouse.

Kinvermark wrote on 10/7/2019, 10:09 AM

I must be a good boy then, 'cause I never get "punished." :) Maybe drink less coffee?

Dot wrote on 10/7/2019, 10:19 AM

I have never accidentally opened it. Everyone clicks differently.

Fiola wrote on 10/7/2019, 10:46 AM

+1, please!

pierre-k wrote on 10/7/2019, 10:50 AM

The suggestion of solution:



Result:
The function will remain, and the rest of us will be calm.

Kinvermark wrote on 10/7/2019, 12:54 PM

ACK! Don't do THAT! Then everybody who needs to name a track header and double clicks in slightly the wrong (invisible) spot will open expanded track mode and then there will be even more complaining! Leave it as right-click submenu choice.

If you want to turn it off in the "deprecated tab" that's OK by me.

(UI design by democracy seems like a really bad idea.)

Nick Hope wrote on 10/7/2019, 1:37 PM

Just add a regular preference on the Editing tab, OFF by default:

[] Enable Expanded Edit Mode

(You'd still need to turn it on by one of the 3 methods.)

Or perhaps 2 new preferences:

[] Enable Expanded Edit Mode by double-clicking event edge

[] Enable Expanded Edit Mode by pressing 5 on the numeric keypad

How are people turning it on by accident? Double-clicking the event edge or pressing 5 on the numeric keypad?

Kinvermark wrote on 10/7/2019, 1:41 PM

Seems mostly to be double clicking the event edge (from what I have read over the years.)

Grazie wrote on 10/7/2019, 2:04 PM

Just add a regular preference on the Editing tab, OFF by default:

@Nick Hope - Nope! Banish it to the "Bin of Deprecation" . . .

 

Nick Hope wrote on 10/7/2019, 2:22 PM

No need to deprecate it if some people are still using it and it can be stopped from opening accidentally.

Grazie wrote on 10/7/2019, 2:24 PM

@Nick Hope - Understood . . . .

Rednroll wrote on 10/7/2019, 2:37 PM

Yes, get rid of this feature and put some useful keyboard short-cuts in their place like Slip Edit keyboard short-cuts. This LJ edit with expanded edit mode stuff is nonsense that hardly anyone knows how to use.

john_dennis wrote on 10/7/2019, 3:13 PM

I’ve answered forum posts about it many more times than I’ve used it or triggered by accident, but I see no need to deprecate it. An Internal Preference for the people who are really adamant about banishing it would pass for me.

Grazie wrote on 10/7/2019, 3:38 PM

An Internal Preference for the people who are really adamant about banishing it would pass for me.

@Richard Jones - Don't hold back Richard! Speak as you find. No point beating around the Bush here.

Richard Jones wrote on 10/8/2019, 4:14 AM

pierre-k this feature annoys me. In a complex project, it takes a very long time to return from Expanded to normal mode. Up to 20 seconds. Please change the keyboard shortcut. Double clicking the mouse in Vegas is the punishment of God.

I suggest for example Triple click mouse.

The use of the 5 key (see my previous post) will save all that time.

Grazie Don't hold back Richard! Speak as you find. No point beating around the Bush here

There's no other way😀 --- not here anyway.

Best Wishes,

Richard

wwjd wrote on 10/8/2019, 6:39 AM

never heard of it, never used it, never needed it. Great. This means it will probably popup in my next edit! :D

gary-rebholz wrote on 10/8/2019, 4:28 PM

Sometimes you guys crack me up! This is a funny thread. Let me just say that if we removed every feature that at least one guy has never used in a million years of editing on VEGAS, we'd be calling the product Do-nothing Editor Light instead of VEGAS Pro! Grazie, you know better than to start such a silly line of argument! Ha! (I only scold because I love...)

The fact that VEGAS Pro has so many features that you have never used is one of our strengths. Some other guy uses it to be sure, and probably doesn't use one of your favorite features. Everybody works his/her own way. That's why VEGAS users are 100% happy all the time. Oh...wait...

Silliness aside, while we don't plan to remove this feature anytime soon, clearly it's the double-click on event edges that trips you guys up most often, and you've shared some good ideas on how we might solve that piece of it and thus "fix" this for everyone.