PLEEEEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

skydivemisterx wrote on 5/8/2003, 11:20 PM
I AM CURRENTLY WORKING ON A LONG PROJECT...120 MINS (for me it's long)...i inadvertantly deleted 4 scenes from my 28 scene project and i can no longer import/capture them...no matter what i try...i have defragged...optimized...dubbed to different mini dv tape...attempted to reclaim from norton utilities...begged...pleaded...cursed...altered input settings...and nothing...
considering i am new to this field, i am sure i am doing something simple, wrong!!!!
i am using a hd with an available 26gb left on it...I ONLY NEED TO CAPTURE ANOTHER 6 MINUTES OF VIDEO...i don't know the current processor speed, but i do know it's newer rather than older...I'M GOINg @#$%ING CRAZY because these final portions of the video, complete the video...
pleeeease help...
suggestions appreciated
and if possible...LAYMANS terms...make it easy for me

i love the software and all of it's sub-programs, so please let me see the light...!!!!!!!

HELP....I'M ALMOST DONE!!!!!
MIKE X

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Chienworks wrote on 5/8/2003, 11:29 PM
"i can no longer import/capture"

Please tell us what happens when you try. Do you get some sort of error message? Does it tell you it's captured but you don't get the files? A few more details will help us a lot in trying to help you figure out the problem.
BillyBoy wrote on 5/8/2003, 11:37 PM
Vegas is non destructive. How did you get the scenes into Vegas originally? If from a camera, then you should be able to capture again from the DV tape. If from your hard drive, again, that's the answer. Maybe you just don't "see" the files in Vegas. Have you tried going to Vegas's explorer tab then clicking on the icon with the two arrows, to refresh the file contents?

I'm having trouble understanding what you did.

Do you mean you just deleted scenes from the timeline? If that's all you did, and you haven't shut down Vegas since you did it, then the undo button will 'undo' what you did. You will lose whatever else you changed before you noticed you deleted something from the timeline, but aside from that nothing is harmed.

Maybe somebody can guess better. Otherwise you need to say what specifcly you did so we know exactly what you mean by 'deleted 4 scenes' otherwise we're just playing guessing games.
FuTz wrote on 5/9/2003, 8:37 AM
And isn't there kind of "saved/backup files" made every 5 minutes in Vegas? If so, it's probalby possible to get them back, no?
That is, if the man didn't delete from Explorer.

Yeah, like everybody said, more details please!
mikkie wrote on 5/9/2003, 9:23 AM
ANother approach might be to copy your vegas proj (.veg) files to a safe location, then try one of the undelete programs out there to try and restore older .veg &/or veg bak files... If successful, might get back to the one where everything worked, assuming nothing has been deleted from the hard drive.
FuTz wrote on 5/9/2003, 9:35 AM
Yeah Mikkie! I knew there was something like that and you now confirm... Thanks!
But the guy didn't anser THAT queshhhhtion; did he actually delete from timeline OR from HDD (or Explorer) ???
Let's just hope he didn't delete *himself*, lol!
decrink wrote on 5/9/2003, 9:43 AM
It would be a heck of a lot easier to help in this case if there were more exclamation marks in the header. That way we would understand the seriousness of the deletions.

P.S. Spelling Please with more e's would help immensely also.
skydivemisterx wrote on 5/9/2003, 10:11 AM
ok....thanks for all of the responses so far (particularily the more 'e's and !'s)

i have been importing from mini-dv.
i deleted from the explorer.
i have also deleted the trash bin since hoping to free up space. oops.
the backup system was a couple of steps behind the deletion time.
the issue is that while trying to re-capture, i can get maybe 15 seconds into the video and then i start dropping frames like crazy...again, tried dubbing to different mini-dv tape, open new project, all sorts of tricks.
my hard drive says i have 46gb available yet the area beneath the browse button says i have 15000 meg available.
i hope this help you understand a little more
a sincere thank you
mike x
skydivemisterx wrote on 5/9/2003, 10:54 AM
i also just discovered that the frame dropping issue is happening EXACTLY ONE MINUTE APART...(frame drops at 48.03 next at 49.03 next at 50.03)
Udi wrote on 5/9/2003, 11:02 AM
Are you using scene detection?
Have you put a limit on clip size?
In the options, disk management, what setting do you have?
skydivemisterx wrote on 5/9/2003, 12:19 PM
my current settings are
scene detection...off
no limit on clip size
72% clear space
overflow at 360

i'm tempted to re-install

thanx
mike
BillyBoy wrote on 5/9/2003, 12:35 PM
IF you are capturing to your root hard drive (C), that could be your problem. For best results you need a seperate hard drive. NOT just a seperate partition (like drive D) dividing a single hard drive into two isn't what I'm suggesting, you need a SEPERATE physical drive. Use it to capture to and for print to tape if you don't directly print from timeline back to your camera. Doing this I NEVER have a single dropped frame.

Other things to avoid while capturing/printing to tape:

1. Turn off all TSR (terminate stay resident) applications like anti-virus, screen savers.
2. Defrag your hard drive.
3. Check for disk errors, prior to step #2.
4. Do NOT use computer for anything else. HANDS OFF keyboard, mouse, etc..


skydivemisterx wrote on 5/9/2003, 1:26 PM
i thank you for all of your suggestions
my newest question would be...if after having imported 20 different videos without incident, why would this have sprung up now, after having deleted just a couple of scenes
mike
FuTz wrote on 5/9/2003, 1:29 PM
And don't capture, like I did (BB will be laughin' at me again I'm sure....) on a separate drive IF you got your programs on this drive. I set up my OS and programs on two different drives and I did THAT mistake a few days ago...

Your capture drive must really be dedicated to capture (or storage) but NEVER contain any other program. Or OS.

FuTz wrote on 5/9/2003, 1:31 PM
"my newest question would be...if after having imported 20 different videos without incident, why would this have sprung up now, after having deleted just a couple of scenes"

Hmmm... that's a good one.

Anybody? (I'd like to know too...)
Udi wrote on 5/9/2003, 1:40 PM
It could be that you have now some application that works on a 1 minute cycle, either something you installed or changed lately (might be a spyware).
It can also be a network issue, if you lan has errors or email access cycle etc. You might want to try capturing with no lan and no internet connection.

Another reason might be that the disk is too fragmented now - it does not explain the 1 minute cycle.

Udi
skydivemisterx wrote on 5/9/2003, 1:58 PM
ok
again, nothing has changed from a day ago...same 'partitioning', same drive configuration, same everything.

sub-question...i have a different, completed, rendered dvd (audio-ts & video-ts) that is taking up space...can i remove the source/raw (mpeg renders) footage and still burn it at a later date.
thanx
mikex
skydivemisterx wrote on 5/9/2003, 1:59 PM
what do you all think of re-installing VV?
Arks wrote on 5/9/2003, 2:48 PM
This may be a dumb question for you, but it solves 50% of the problems I have here at work with users.... did you power cycle your computer?? (i mean reboot or physically turn it off and on?)

I am assuming you did this, but i thought I would suggest it, just in case. I do know that it is not a Vegas Problem. It seems to be a conflict of some sort...most likely software, although i would not rule out the HD needing to be defragged. Just as billyboy has stated, DO NOT capture to your OS drive; only capture to a SLAVE physical HD on a different IDE connection. I would not even have any other programs on that slave drive either; just captured files and storage of various media files (PSD, wav, etc..) I suggest you download spy-bot and check and get rid of all the spyware on your computer (its amazing how much junk you will find that you dont know about) because this may cause problems as mentioned in this post earlier. Another thing that may be causing problems too is your IEEE 1394 card... did you install a new PCI card of any kind to cause a conflict? I had a 1394 card problem with dropped frames and artifacts like crazy once... all i did was reset the card into a different PCI slot and it worked perfectly.

All in all, its gonna be hard to judge what the exact problem is by hearing examples over this forum; I hope all of these suggestions help you out.

Brian Artka
influx media LLC
www.influx-media.com
skydivemisterx wrote on 5/9/2003, 3:33 PM
ok new discovery
the same frame drop issue is happening when i export to tape??????
Arks wrote on 5/9/2003, 3:36 PM
take the tape you recorded the video too, put it into the camera, plug your camera into a TV and watch the tape at that point. Your tape may have glitches... hope this isnt the case, cause if so, thats not easy to fix (or fixable at all). If thats not the case, i would say it has something to do with your firewire card.
skydivemisterx wrote on 5/9/2003, 3:48 PM
i know the tape is clean...all of the 3 different copies...as for the firewire card? are their any checks available to see if that is the problem?
skydivemisterx wrote on 5/10/2003, 2:16 AM
please read my story
mikkie wrote on 5/10/2003, 7:37 AM
Just throwing out some ideas in case they give you any...

What happens if you start fresh and just try to capture the video you're after, worrying about getting it into your proj later after it's on your drive?. You may have already & I missed it in all the posts, so please forgive if I did.

Just so much focus on working with this one project, sometimes I get in that mode and the proj itself is screwed up so... IMO I'd not worry about what went before or why anything happened - just treat everything as fresh so you can focus on what's happening now.

Other then that, said something earlier on about another proj. If the DVD layout is complete, and you've already burned and checked it, I couldn't see a prob removing the source files. If you haven't burned and checked it yet, you'll have similar prob if you have to tweak your DVD layout.

BillyBoy wrote on 5/10/2003, 12:07 PM
I agree with Mike. We're jumping all over the place and still don't know what the problem is.

a. is it your camera?
b. the firewire card?
c. Windows?
d. a hardware conflict?
e. something with your current project?

What?

I would take out the current tape in your camera, put it in a safe place, put in a fresh tape, and see if you duplicate the problem trying to capture something else. That then should eliminate or point to your current project. Once you do that, then you have a better chance of narrowing it down further.

It has been my experience that Windows doesn't always handle firewire devices very well. Sometimes I've noticed the camera falls off the listing in Windows Explorer. Other times when trying to capture a second DLL pops up under Video (in Vegas video capture) and unless I recycle the camera by turning if off and on Vegas is stuck. I don't think its Vegas, rather Windows messing around.

If something is happening now that didn't before and it happens every minute or so over and over, that may suggest if you have an active Internet connection and that something on your computer (virus, spyware, whatever) is attempting to access the Internet without your permission and that is causing you problems.

For example...

A week or so a go I posted a article about spyware, backweb in particular. This nasty piece of software can invade you system (comes with some drives, other things) and it will try to phone home constantly. So too with messaging. If you get those annoying messages that pop up with no warning no matter what you're doing, you may wish to turn of that annoying Windows "feature" .

In XP.... Start/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Services/Messenger See if its active. If it is disable it. Double click on it, startup type, change to disable, then hit apply.

While you're there you can see what else is 'turned on' by Windows, and you may wish to turn off things you don't need. Just don't do it recklessly or you'll mess up Windows completely. Read the descriiption of each service first and before you change make note of what it was set as so you can restore it. Or if you haven't disabled it, and you're using XP, save a restore point. I can't. I disabled that turkey long ago, since its such a hard drive hog.