PNG looks jagged in Render Preview

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RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 11/14/2022, 4:11 PM

@RedRob-CandlelightProdctns

"hmm.. why would disk usage in your 2nd render (no preview screen) be higher?! Same CODEC and same project should have been identical disk usage."

Disk usage is trivial for me, but I'll write it off to sampling theory. Way back in the early days of digital volt ohm meters, the accuracy was expressed as some accuracy +/- one digit.

I can't buy the sampling theory on this one m'friend.

Render identical source footage, identical region with identical CODEC (same algorithm) and identical quality settings and rendering choices (e.g. hardware vs non-hardware, deinterlacing method, etc) -- bit-for-bit the results should be identical.

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john_dennis wrote on 11/15/2022, 10:26 AM

@RedRob-CandlelightProdctns

"I can't buy the sampling theory on this one m'friend.

Render identical source footage, identical region with identical CODEC (same algorithm) and identical quality settings and rendering choices (e.g. hardware vs non-hardware, deinterlacing method, etc) -- bit-for-bit the results should be identical."

I drink coffee in the morning before I do anything meaningful. While drinking coffee and watching a render, I observed that the "Disk Usage" displayed in the Vegas Pro Rendering dialog box changes periodically. The result is not cumulative. There should be no expectation of comparative numbers at the end of a render. The display reflects the disk I/O in the last sample period. While the render was in progress, I observed values from 0.00% to 1.34%.

RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 11/15/2022, 8:19 PM

@john_dennis Speaking of coffee -- I shouldn't be trying to logicize my brain after 1am ;-) Reading back it looks like I was completely thinking of output size (disk space used) and not the disk utilization during some sample period. *headdesk*

THAT said, I'm shocked to think it would anything but a cumulative average -- similarly for the CPU utilization number at the end of the render. Are you saying both the CPU and Disk Usage reported are *not* actual averages over the render period?? If not, what value do they provide at the end there?

Vegas 21.300

My PC (for finishing):

Cyperpower PC Intel Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.2GHz, 64GB mem @ 2133MHz RAM, AMD Radeon RX470 (4GB dedicated) with driver recommended by Vegas Updater (reports as 30.0.15021.11005 dated 4/28/22), and Intel HD Graphics 630 driver version 31.0.101.2112 dated 7/21/22 w/16GB shared memory. Windows 10 Pro 64bit version 10.0.19045 Build 19045.

My main editing laptop:

Dell G15 Special Edition 5521, Bios 1.12 9/13/22, Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621)

12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H (14 cores, 20 logical processors), 32 GB DDR5 4800MHz RAM, Intel Iris Xe Graphics, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU w/8GB GDDR6 RAM, Realtek Audio

 

 

john_dennis wrote on 11/15/2022, 9:06 PM

Whatever is in the buffer at the end of the render.

RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 11/15/2022, 9:56 PM

Whatever is in the buffer at the end of the render.

hahaha.. by "what value do they provide" I didn't mean "where is the value coming from" -- rather, I meant "what is the point of displaying any value if it's not the actual average from over the course of the render?"

Knowing the number from a tiny window would be meaningless at that point.

Vegas 21.300

My PC (for finishing):

Cyperpower PC Intel Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.2GHz, 64GB mem @ 2133MHz RAM, AMD Radeon RX470 (4GB dedicated) with driver recommended by Vegas Updater (reports as 30.0.15021.11005 dated 4/28/22), and Intel HD Graphics 630 driver version 31.0.101.2112 dated 7/21/22 w/16GB shared memory. Windows 10 Pro 64bit version 10.0.19045 Build 19045.

My main editing laptop:

Dell G15 Special Edition 5521, Bios 1.12 9/13/22, Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621)

12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H (14 cores, 20 logical processors), 32 GB DDR5 4800MHz RAM, Intel Iris Xe Graphics, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU w/8GB GDDR6 RAM, Realtek Audio