Like Nickhope I use QTGMC for this but the person you're speaking to (can't see the name list right now) says it can be done in Vegas with the right setting, The test video is like a failsafe, if you see the top dot it's worked.

@EricLNZ it's smoothing out a lot of things such as the grass, and even the flowers, and also her face has an AI-sharpening look to it in scenes that Pea-Hicks says he doesn't like. I think the best upscaling doesn't look like it's upscaled, but this does (to me). Has a color cast in scenes but could be fixed easy enough

Edge combing tests of various software deinterlacers:

My only issue with QTGMC is that it puts a dark stroke around the edge, probably to mask stairstepping.

Comparison of Vegas Smart Deinterlace with other solutions:

• Vegas Smart Deinterlace
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• Handbrake Decomb
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• Donald Graff Smart Deinterlace
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• EEDI2
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@mark-y sorry for the delay, i got bogged down in other work. here's a 1 minute sample of a raw capture. if you can find a vegas setting that produces unique frames at 60p, let me know, thanks! https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/q6k5a3hp63y6woou7187k/peahix-vhs-ep-video-capture-sample.avi?rlkey=icy36cxtf82tk1b3jzn38xsas&dl=0

@Pea-Hicks

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears to me that your capture is not interlaced and the jaggies are baked into your file at this point. Waiting to be corrected...

@john_dennis that would be news to me. when i match project settings to media in vegas, it puts me in field order: lower field first, and it's definitely interlaced-looking while editing in vegas. switching to progressive and smart adaptive deinterlace, it looks fine. my blackmagic card is capturing at 525i59.94 NTSC.

Maybe I need to be re-educated on how to Match Media Properties?

@john_dennis ok well now i'm really confused, because when i do exactly what you're doing in both of those videos, the properties get set at "lower field first" and "0.9091 (NTSC DV)"

@Pea-Hicks

Vegas 13

Vegas 14

Is there a codec required to deal with this media?

@john_dennis I'm using Vegas Pro 20 myself, so I don't know what sort of differences between that and the older versions you're running would account for all this.

@mark-y sorry for the delay, i got bogged down in other work. here's a 1 minute sample of a raw capture. if you can find a vegas setting that produces unique frames at 60p, let me know, thanks!

Sorry, no can do. Yours is not a pristine interlaced capture, but Progressive with no decomb filter. Now I know how you got away with 486 vertical, it's actually a frankenfile that almost works.

Play more with your capture card to exactly port the NTSC DV 4:3 480i standard, and we can work with it, and yes, most likely get you some amazing upscaled 60p results in Vegas, within the confines of your source quality of course. I'm doing one as we speak. Post back; until then . . . @Pea-Hicks

Let me net it out for you. Two different machines running Vegas 21, 14 and 13 here in Northern California don't match the expected media properties of the file that you uploaded.

You must be living a charmed life. Vegas 20-411 on my laptop (which I use as a doorstop most of the time) produces these results:

Vegas 20-411 on my laptop (which I use as a doorstop most of the time)

+1

Took a little break from my project to show you what I'm doing.

Honest to goodness 1080 p60 in Vegas from NTSC 4:3 480i, with the added challenge of 3-2 telecine pulldown removal!

Out of curiosity I downloaded Pea's file. With VP21 Build 315 I found:

1. The file declares itself Progressive. I altered its properties to LFF. It also says its PAR is square when it should probably be 0.9091 but I didn't alter that
2. In Project Properties I applied Interpolate fields for Deinterlace Method and 59.94 framerate in order to see each deinterlaced field
3. On Preview Good Full going through the file frame by frame there is no combing. Change the Deinterlace method to None and the combing appears.

I didn't know how to handle your file properly, could only get 30 unique frames, I have the aspect ratio wrong and it contains duplicate frames, then I tried the free videoproc upscaler and as was seen before made things softer. So I'll leave this to the experts and interested to see how well they do, with cleaner and sharper video.

@mark-y thanks. i'm really not sure where my capture settings are wrong, but i'll experiment with different signal flows. currently the vhs deck is running s-video out to a leitch dps-475 tbc, then from there it's going SDI into a blackmagic decklink studio card, and being captured by blackmagic media express software. i'll try removing the leitch from the chain but i know from past experience that running the vhs directly into the blackmagic card generally gives unstable results, especially with EP source material.

all that being said, it's not that i'm getting "bad" final results with the current setup. 30p doesn't bother me with this sort of source, as much as i'd like to have 60p with unique frames. but ultimately i'd like to have all the "right" settings for this, if i'm going to spend time doing it at all. here's a current example of what my final results are looking like:

I doubt a standalone TBC is capable of deinterlacing video. They correct the sync clock to eliminate jumpy tape.

• You will need to establish a transparent passthrough connection to the DV25 tape signal, the same as we did with IEEE 1394 firewire in past decades.
• There are several other users of your capture card here who may be able to help you achieve that condition.
• Once you have altered any source parameter from the original signal, the changes are more often than not baked in, and the output is unsuitable for post processing by the methods I described and use in Vegas. The internet is full of frankenfile abominations, and I have kind of a hobby trying to rescue rare footage.

In the cartoon example I posted above, I was lucky to find a pristine 1990 rip from the Japanese Laserdisc by someone who knew what they were doing, making pulldown removal and decombing, and eventually upsampling possible.

I capture at the moment footage from old PAL S-VHS tapes. Capturing takes place with a old, but superior Canopus NX card (also called Edius NX). The advantage of this card is, that it has an TBC integrated - and also a decoiser. So an old, but great card.

I captured to an uncompressed codec.

However, the footage delivered by the card is 720x576 uncompressed, with upper field first.

So my idea is, to upscale that to 1080 25p, or even 1080 50p.

For this I use the AI upscale tool. with the sharp modell and smooth (the model sharp takes longer for rendering).

To adjust both

and the project settings are set to either 25p or 50p - always with "Smart Adaptive (GPU only) and optical flow.

or

and the funny thing is, that rendering to AVC 50p runs very fast.

The results are really great! No interlacing can be seen anymore on the PC monitor - and the footage is smooth and color corrected.

Original footage (left) and upscaled 50p footage (right)

Great really.

@Wolfgang S. I have reviewed your settings. My findings are that it gives a low quality result. Consider the workflow of Pea-Hicks, the near uncompressed capture footage and questions he's asking to get highest results possible. Video playback needs to be at 720P or higher to get 60fps required for this demonstration

There is no upscale here, just Vegas de-interlacing using Wolfgang method.

The original discussion started with NTSC VHS footage, so 720x486. I started with PAL VHS footage, captured without any upscaling or deinterlacing to uncompressed footage with a Canopus NX (TBC and denoising included). The test was done in the software.

For my footage the combination of upscaling and deinterlacing works nice in Vegas. Off course, this was one example only and must be adapted for the specific requirements.

If you see a better workflow, please be so kind and give us your suggestion in more details.

@Wolfgang S. It would be the optical flow that's the problem? He said he's happy with 30fps so could try your 30fps template, but then I wonder is optical flow doing anything then, does it still serve a purpose and create a better result over traditional deinterlacing in Vegas?