Render DVD surround 5.1 Vegas pro 17

German-Gil wrote on 8/15/2022, 8:08 PM

Hello, I hope you are well.

I'm having a problem rendering DVD Surround 5.1 audio in Vegas Pro 17. The option is active in the program and I also have DVD Architect Pro 7, purchased with Vegas Pro. When I try to render in this format, the render window closes and does not run any processes. This is happening to me after a reinstall. Can you help me by telling me how I can make this option work in Vegas. Very grateful for the help you can give me. I am rendering for a project in DVD Architect

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Hola, espero se encuentren bien.
Tengo un problema renderizando un audio en formato DVD Surround 5.1 en Vegas Pro 17.  La opción la tengo activa y también tengo activo el producto DVD Architect Pro 7, que adquiri con el Vegas Pro.  Cuando intento renderizar en este formato, la ventana de renderizar se cierra y no ejecuta ningún proceso.   Esto me esta ocurriendo luego de que una reinstalación.  Me pueden ayudar indicandome como puedo hacer que funcione esta opción en Vegas.  Muy agradecido por la ayuda que me puedan brindar.

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fr0sty wrote on 8/15/2022, 8:43 PM

I don't think VEGAS 17 can encode AC3 5.1 anymore... Voukoder supports it if I remember, maybe try to download that and render using it... alternately, you can render out a 6 channel wav (in split channel format, so it renders 6 separate mono wav files, one for each speaker and the subwoofer), you can then feed those into this app and it will encode it into a 5.1 channel surround ac3 file.

https://www.videohelp.com/software/EncWAVtoAC3

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Dexcon wrote on 8/15/2022, 9:12 PM

Vegas Pro 14, 15 and 16 were able to render AC3 5.1 using a workaround as per item 31 in:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-faqs-and-troubleshooting-guides--104787/

For Vegas Pro 15 and 16, the workaround required the transfer and renaming of some File I/O files from Vegas Pro 13 into Vegas Pro 15/16.

The workaround definitely does not work in Vegas Pro 17 or later.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

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Dell Alienware Aurora 11

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C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

Wovian wrote on 8/16/2022, 3:42 AM

I currently use the workaround in VP14 and the lack of a 5.1 render from Vegas is the main reason I didn't upgrade any more. Have the majority of folks just given up on this issue and go with stereo audio? The suggestion from frosty above seems way too much hassle

DMT3 wrote on 8/16/2022, 7:14 AM

I have V12 and V19. I export the separate tracks from V19 and create the 5.1 using V12.

Dexcon wrote on 8/16/2022, 7:20 AM

I have V12 and V19. I export the separate tracks from V19 and create the 5.1 using V12.

Much the same here except that I export the audio tracks to VP16 which has the workaround installed. Could always go back to VP10, 11, 12 or 13 if necessary.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

Wovian wrote on 8/17/2022, 3:38 AM

Interesting. Sorry to be a bit slow here but DMT3/Dexcon how do you use VP 19 to generate a 5.1 audio file? I cant see any render options in my trial version of VP20 that allows me to do that. Is there an option to render a single track?

Also could I ask what medium your final product is? I tend to use DVDAP 5.2 to burn a blu- ray

Dexcon wrote on 8/17/2022, 4:48 AM

how do you use VP 19 to generate a 5.1 audio file?

It's not possible from VP17 onwards. The way to render to AC3 5.1 is to copy the audio tracks from the VP17 (and later) project's timeline and paste them into Sony VP13 (or earlier) - or into VP14, 15 or 16 which has one of the workarounds employed - and then render to AC3 in that old VP version which will have the customisable AC3 Pro 5.1 render template.

I'm using DVDA 6.0 burning to blu-ray single layer discs.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

DMT3 wrote on 8/17/2022, 8:09 AM

Like Dexcon said, render out the separate tracks or copy and import them into a version that supports AC3 5.1.

fr0sty wrote on 8/17/2022, 11:31 AM

Or just use the free app I posted that doesn't require owning an older version of VEGAS.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

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ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

DMT3 wrote on 8/17/2022, 11:34 AM

@fr0sty is the free app an official authorized version of Dolby AC3?

fr0sty wrote on 8/17/2022, 11:35 AM

it works, that's all i know.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Wovian wrote on 8/17/2022, 1:39 PM

OK thanks guys. I had spent some time looking at the VP20 documentation earlier as there seemed to be quite a bit referring to rendering 5.1 audio; certainly gave me the impression that there was scope to do something but a false dawn by the sound of it. A program this expensive and missing something so important!!!

fr0sty wrote on 8/17/2022, 2:15 PM

VEGAS can render 5.1 just fine, just not Dolby Digital, which few other apps can these days as well because of Dolby's notoriously overpriced licensing policy. I gave you 2 ways to use VEGAS to render 5.1 that results in a Dolby Digital compatible 5.1 channel audio file. One of them (Voukoder) doesn't even require you to leave VEGAS, and both are free.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Wovian wrote on 8/18/2022, 5:05 AM

@frosty which template are you referring to for 5.1 rendering and will this be loadable into DVDAP 5.2 for a blu-ray? I can see the Voukoder option you mention what's the second option you refer to?

Wovian wrote on 8/18/2022, 9:52 AM

Thanks @Joelson. Ill take a look at this