I've been looking for that thread! I couldn't find it.

For a sample, I have a link to dropbox
Click here to view WRDE.

There are 5 :30 vids with various hiccups

Frame Rate is 29.970

Which other properties?

Sorry about that. The previous thread suggested the GPU in main preferences fix. I did that and it reduced the hiccups but not completely. I went back and re-built the files to see if that corrected it. It didn't and I couldn't find the old thread.

No actual link to your dropbox. To find your old threads, click on your userid to the right of Posted by:

Here is the link
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vcsg604ced4m2r1/AACzHFlvLaVPdmkSfDtxxbL4a?n=75424386

I see these artifacts when I put the Fort Miles 1 FINAL.mpg file back onto the Vegas Pro timeline. I see tearing at about 0:15 seconds with Windows Media Player but I don't see it on the Vegas Pro timeline.

Please post the Mediainfo properties for the source file. (Note: Refuse the crapware.)

The Mediainfo report for your rendered file follows:

Complete name                            : \WRDE\Fort Miles 1 FINAL.mpg

Format                                   : MPEG-PS

File size                                : 40.1 MiB

Duration                                 : 30s 72ms

Overall bit rate                         : 11.2 Mbps



Video

ID                                       : 224 (0xE0)

Format                                   : MPEG Video

Commercial name                          : HDV 1080i

Format version                           : Version 2

Format profile                           : Main@High 1440

Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes

Format settings, Matrix                  : Default

Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=15

Duration                                 : 29s 963ms

Bit rate                                 : 10.6 Mbps

Maximum bit rate                         : 9 800 Kbps

Width                                    : 1 440 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate                               : 29.970 fps

Standard                                 : Component

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Interlaced

Scan order                               : Top Field First

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.227

Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00:00

Time code source                         : Group of pictures header

Stream size                              : 37.7 MiB (94%)

Color primaries                          : BT.709

Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709

Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709



Audio

ID                                       : 192 (0xC0)

Format                                   : MPEG Audio

Format version                           : Version 1

Format profile                           : Layer 2

Duration                                 : 30s 72ms

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 384 Kbps

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Delay relative to video                  : -67ms

Stream size                              : 1.38 MiB (3%)

Sorry, I have no idea what you asked me to do

I'm looking for the characteristics of the source file, wrapper type, field order frames per second and bit rate. Mediainfo is an application that can display those characteristics.

In Windows Media Player, I see compression artifacts on transitions that could indicate the bit rate is too low, possibly in the source file.

Still confused. Do I need to download the mediainfo program? I don't have admin privs, only IT can do that. I uploaded a Fort Miles B roll that I filmed with the same settings. The Source file in particular is pretty large so I went with a smaller one that should be the same settings.
When I looked at the Properties of the Source File:
Video:
Data Rate 22935 KBPS
Total Bitrate 23191 KBPS
Frame Rate 29 Frames per Sec
Audio:
Bit Rate 256 BPS
Audio Sample Rate 48 kHz

The Mediainfo for the source file that you uploaded was:

ID                                       : 0 (0x0)

Complete name                            : RWDE Fort Miles (16).MTS

Format                                   : BDAV

Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video

File size                                : 24.0 MiB

Duration                                 : 8s 460ms

Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable

Overall bit rate                         : 23.6 Mbps

Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 24.0 Mbps



Video

ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : High@L4.0

Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

Format settings, ReFrames                : 2 frames

Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=15

Codec ID                                 : 27

Duration                                 : 8s 442ms

Bit rate mode                            : Variable

Bit rate                                 : 22.4 Mbps

Maximum bit rate                         : 22.7 Mbps

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate                               : 29.970 fps

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Interlaced

Scan order                               : Top Field First

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.361

Stream size                              : 22.6 MiB (94%)



Audio

ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AC-3

Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3

Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)

Format settings, Endianness              : Big

Codec ID                                 : 129

Duration                                 : 8s 512ms

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 256 Kbps

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Channel positions                        : Front: L R

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Delay relative to video                  : -67ms

Stream size                              : 266 KiB (1%)

If all your source was of this quality and your project properties in Vegas Pro 11 are set correctly, your output should look very good.

Working...

They do look good with the exception of a minor hiccup that isn't in the same place twice.

That is why this is so frustrating. I have probably rendered that Ft. Miles video 20 to 25 times and haven't been able to get one, glitch free render.

Is this one glitch free?

Yes, that is a sample of the videos straight out of the camera. I thought that's what you needed to find some of the settings.

I will be honest, when you said:

source file, wrapper type, field order frames per second and bit rate. Mediainfo is an application that can display those characteristics.
In Windows Media Player, I see compression artifacts on transitions that could indicate the bit rate is too low, possibly in the source file.

I thought you suddenly started typing in another language.
Is that what you meant by Source File? A file straight from the camera?

My previous link was not the original. I rendered it with the HDV render template in Vegas Pro 13. I uploaded it to see if your playback application or device was causing the hiccup that you see.

So you didn't see an issue with this video?

it looked fine. I didn't see any jumps at all. Could it be caused by my layers?

I'd try a different render template and codec.

Try Sony AVC/MVC (*.mp4, *.m2ts, *avc) / AVCHD 1920x1080-60i and see if that is better.

If you're curious about something in the project, you could upload your project file (.veg) without you source files and others could try it on different machines.

Please check Field Order in the Project Properties.

Please check Field Order in the Project Media Window. Right - Click a file and select Properties.

Your source file had the Field Order "Upper Field First". Every other combination I tried produced interlace artifacts.

That seems to be working fine now. Thank you so much for all your help!
If you are ever at the beach in Delaware, beers at Dogfish Head!

Glad you got it working. I'll be stuck in California for a few months, then, who knows?

I left a voice message for a friend who vacations in Delaware every year. If he's still there, I'll send him over to collect.

My friend Dennis, had the beers at Dogfish Head but he brought me the empty glass.

Thanks John,

That's hilarious, I loved this story & thanks for posting the epilogue!

Duncan