Revised QSV Does Work. RX480 vs HD630

D7K wrote on 11/27/2017, 12:51 PM

Note: I had the wrong codec, I didn't realize you had to use the Magix ACC/AVC render for the intel GPU to be used. It is slightly faster than the RX480 using this codec for 4K rendering and slightly slower for 1080P rendering. note the new times for the 4k render. I had some spare time today so I turned on the GPU in my i7700 and decided to test it against my RX480. I set the Intel GPU to the highest memory in setup for it (1 Gig) and then started Vegas 15. I do some cat videos for the 2K folks who are following the Feral Kittens we adopted from Canada. This is Panasonic 4k 2160 100mb base with titles, music, some grading on the six segments I used, some crop on a few of the segments, a high res still - generally the kind of stuff I do. video

Vegas shows the two GPUs (you have to close and restart when you change GPU's). AMD Ellesmere and Intel HD Graphics 630.

4K = 80 mbits 1920 = 28 mbits

File sizes for 4K: Magix ACC/AVC Size 438.78 Render 6:01 minutes Magix ACC Size 466.16 Render 6:21 minutes

1080P Hevc Size 124 Render 1:46 minutes Magix ACC Size 133.32 Render 1:34

The 4K render took 10:48 without Gpu

The Intel encoding does work but you have to use the Magix ACC/AVC encoding. Please disregard my next post where I suggest it does not work

 

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D7K wrote on 11/27/2017, 6:56 PM

Although I encode mostly in ProRes or a Sony codec, if I had not purchased the RX480 I would use the intel encoding as it is fast (very similar to the RX480 for free:( )

dream wrote on 11/28/2017, 7:39 AM

I had some spare time today so I turned on the GPU in my i7700 and decided to test it against my RX480. I set the Intel GPU to the highest memory in setup for it (1 Gig) and then started Vegas 15. I do some cat videos for the 2K folks who are following the Feral Kittens we adopted from Canada. This is Panasonic 4k 2160 100mb base with titles, music, some grading on the six segments I used, some crop on a few of the segments, a high res still - generally the kind of stuff I do. video

Vegas shows the two GPUs (you have to close and restart when you change GPU's). AMD Ellesmere and Intel HD Graphics 630.

4K = 80 mbits 1920 = 28 mbits

File sizes for 4K: Hevc Size 438.78 Render 10.58 minutes Magix ACC Size 466.16 Render 6:21 minutes

1080P Hevc Size 124 Render 3:53 minutes Magix ACC Size 133.32 Render 1:34

 

While Vegas Pro shows Intel HD Graphics 630 as an option and I did restarted after I selected it I am not sure that it is working correctly. While true that the RX480 has eight times the processing area as what I could allocate to the HD Graphics 630, should not the performance been closer?

I wonder how you would verify that the HD Graphics 630 is working when shown as the select GPU in preferences and you select Intel HEVC as the render codec?

did you render with intel qsv or nvenc or normal

D7K wrote on 11/28/2017, 9:54 AM

Thank you Corinco and dream without your posts I'd never realized that I had to use the Magix ACC/AVC for the Intel GPU to work.

Former user wrote on 11/28/2017, 10:34 AM

What about the INTEL HEVC codec. Did you try that one, did that appear to work with intel gpu?

There is no gpu option to choose with that one.

D7K wrote on 11/28/2017, 10:59 AM

Bob - tried that yesterday - It was slow with all the various ways but the RX480 was the best. Going from 4K > 1080P Intel Hevc on the 8 Gig RX 480 took 3:30 vs 1:34 using the Magix ACC/AVC . This was at the 28 mbytes rate. Another data point here is that using the RX480 and Magix HQ ProRes (150 Mbytes) to 1080P took 1:20 seconds.

MY Machine is an i7700 4200 with 32 gig ram and using a 7200 HD for stock and a fast 512 SSD for rendering.

Overall I like my setup and really like VP15.....if only Magix would hook up Samplitude for round tripping sound I'd be in heaven.

NickHope wrote on 11/28/2017, 11:14 AM

@Former user From that other thread, my guess is that you have to plug your monitor into the motherboard, not your discrete graphics card, to get QSV to work for 8-bit HEVC rendering. Have you tried that?

ken-dehoff said here that once he made his Intel GPU the only active display adapter he was able to HW encode with the Intel HEVC codec. So it might even be that if you have multiple monitors, none of them can be plugged into your discrete graphics card. Also note that on the evidence of that thread, getting 8-bit to work with QSV in that way, will probably make 10-bit fail totally.

D7K wrote on 11/28/2017, 11:26 AM

No need to, here is a screenshot of a very quick render with that codec of the taskmanager where you see which GPU is working. All info on the screenshot.
 


When I go into Task Manger I don't see the GPU setting (I run techpower GPU-Z to show GPU performance), what version of W10 are you running? Is there a setting to turn it on?

D7K wrote on 11/28/2017, 11:39 AM

Win 10 pro or home (I have home)? I am on the latest update also.

D7K wrote on 11/28/2017, 12:05 PM

I am now upgrading to 1709.....had auto upgrade on don't know why this didn't down load. Thank you.

dream wrote on 11/28/2017, 12:15 PM

1709 is latest creators update,for me qsv works good than any

D7K wrote on 11/28/2017, 2:41 PM

Now have the GPU - shows both the Intel and the AMD and when rendering which ever one i have selected. Nice little add on Task Manager.

Former user wrote on 11/28/2017, 6:16 PM

@Former user From that other thread, my guess is that you have to plug your monitor into the motherboard, not your discrete graphics card, to get QSV to work for 8-bit HEVC rendering. Have you tried that?

I use the dual GPU option in bios so some things such as intel QSV will work with various apps, and also for some reason thumbnails within filemanager are also run by intel GPU, As said previously QSV works with MAGIX AVC but not INTEL HEVC. I will try plugging motherboard video into a monitor to check your theory.

Former user wrote on 11/28/2017, 6:58 PM

@Former user From that other thread, my guess is that you have to plug your monitor into the motherboard, not your discrete graphics card, to get QSV to work for 8-bit HEVC rendering. Have you tried that?

I will try plugging motherboard video into a monitor to check your theory.

I have confirmed this doesn't fix the lack of intel gpu when using INTEL HEVC. If it matters I have dual monitor set to extended display & confirm 1 monitor uses nvidia card & the other motherboard.

D7K wrote on 11/28/2017, 9:26 PM

Good info.