Ryzen1800x SLOW&Choppy editing

8500rpm wrote on 3/24/2017, 3:46 PM

Hello,

I used to run a 4930k and Nvidia 970, but the motherboard broke down, so I decided to switch to the new AMD.

Now I'm on a AMD 1800x, 32Gb RAM and same Nvidia 970 and it's soooo slow and choppy editing.

To be fair, I used to run Vegas 13 on the 4930k, and upgraded to Vegas Pro 14 while reinstalling everything but something is wrong, this is SOOO much worse editing.

The preview window lags behind, importing video files takes seconds longer than on the 4930k/Vegas13, moving the time slider/metronome (whatever it's called) the preview window cannot keep up while on 4930k/Vegas13 it was very smooth.

AND, when rendering to same Mainconcept as before, rendering is fast but pauses for a second every 10seconds, at least the preview.

 

Something is really wrong...OR, is there some Intel specific code in Vegas that we have to wait Magix fixes before we can use AMD?

Right now, save your $ and do NOT buy an AMD cpu...super slow editing compared to a 4year old Intel.

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8500rpm wrote on 3/24/2017, 4:00 PM

Oh, I might have found it already... some advice from the gaming community. It's the Windows10 scheduler, it doesn't treat the AMD 8 cores correct. You can turn on 'High performance' mode in Windows and it's much smoother. Not choppy any longer. I will report more after a few days. But this could be the cure :)

astar wrote on 3/25/2017, 2:27 PM

https://www.slashgear.com/amd-absolves-windows-10-of-ryzen-cpu-performance-criticism-14478682/

 

I would make sure to follow your motherboard manufacturer closely, and look for any firmware/ driver updates they provide. These types of issues are pretty typical with early generation devices.

Clearly you must have installed a clean load of Win10 when you got the machine. Loading pretty much only vegas, GPU, and Windows updates on it? Is this correct?

8500rpm wrote on 3/25/2017, 2:52 PM

https://www.slashgear.com/amd-absolves-windows-10-of-ryzen-cpu-performance-criticism-14478682/

 

I would make sure to follow your motherboard manufacturer closely, and look for any firmware/ driver updates they provide. These types of issues are pretty typical with early generation devices.

Clearly you must have installed a clean load of Win10 when you got the machine. Loading pretty much only vegas, GPU, and Windows updates on it? Is this correct?

 

Correct. Clean install, not really anything except Microsoft Office, Chome browser etc.

I see rendering times for same clip fluctuating between 13minutes and 27minutes. Have to say, I'm not really sure, but at least Windows10 high performance mode seem to help.

Generally, even if I'm almost happy with my AMD 1800x + Asus x370 Prime, I have to say, not everything is right, The system seems choppy, maybe I'm influended by everything I've read, but seems like it's super fast when it's fast, but it pauses for half a second every now and then, then continues.

Vegas14 on this new system is generally SLOWER at editing (preview, moving around in the menus) than Vegas13 on my 4930k.

 

I have high hopes on some BIOS/driver updates in April :)

astar wrote on 3/25/2017, 4:44 PM

I would try an RX480 in that rig.   It is unlikely that the manufacturers tested any past NV hardware with that X370 chipset.   Since the RX480 is the latest GPU from AMD, and ASUS even makes a 480 GPU card, you can be sure that combo was tested before release.  Just return the card if it makes no difference.   I would start over again with a clean load of Win10, updates, drivers, and Vegas.   Just to rule things out.

8500rpm wrote on 3/30/2017, 9:39 AM

I have to apologize to AMD now :) After a lot of trials I found that the SSD disk (not Windows system disk) that was the target for all Vegas files was suddenly very slow.

I switched to a new SSD, just copied the old file structure to the new and now Vegas is MUCH more responsive in all respects.

Don't know if this particular OCZ Vertex is not very compatible with the Asus Prime X370 motherboard, but now on the new disk everything is fine!

Render time is just AMAZING with the AMD 1800x :) super happy! I do turn on Windows High Performance mode every time I start Vegas, and then go back to balanced when I quit Vegas.

 

Sorry AMD! :)

john_dennis wrote on 3/30/2017, 3:47 PM

I'm curious to know if your lagging performance from the SSD would show in the Windows Resource Monitor for Disk Activity. I would expect the Response Time measurement for the file that you're reading in Vegas Pro to be at or near zero ms with an SSD even though other background operations might be taking longer because of queuing.