No, it doesn't. I never had to add a video track before either, they have always been there. But I have 2 projects opened up right now, and they are not showing up.

I don't know why, but they popped up for a moment, and then went away again. No idea what is going on. Been a Vegas user since version 14 and have never had this issue...

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I presume you are using the latest drivers for your Nvidia card on laptop.
I think that is the reason for this problem.
Install again the former driverversion 522.30 and after that I think this problem is gone.

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I know how to turn them on and off. They are not toggling on is what I am saying...

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I presume you are using the latest drivers for your Nvidia card on laptop.
I think that is the reason for this problem.
Install again the former driverversion 522.30 and after that I think this problem is gone.

I do have the latest drivers installed. I thought about rolling back, but decided to try and reinstall Vegas instead. Once I did that, the issue was resolved. The drivers would have been my next attempt. Thanks for the reply!

Side Q , Do you really need safe area these days? Under scan is a thing of the past, a CRT TV issue, is it not?

I thought about rolling back, but decided to try and reinstall Vegas instead. Once I did that, the issue was resolved. The drivers would have been my next attempt.
 

@Liberty610 - You know what, sometimes just sometimes, VegasPro requires a Wake-Up Call to bring about everything to happen as it should. I’ve learnt this. I may “expect” and hope it shouldn’t be this way, but then something comes along and bites me in rear. The trouble with Artificial Intelligence (AI) is just that, it’s artificial.

@Liberty610 - Really glad you’ve got it working.

Side Q , Do you really need safe area these days? Under scan is a thing of the past, a CRT TV issue, is it not?

@FayFen - Our colleague here did say for Standard TV? Would be interesting to ask just what is Standard TV. However, if this is what is needed then I’m OK with that 😉.

Some fairly modern LCD TVs by default overscan. At least that is my experience. I've mine set to show everything which means sometimes I see edge noise.

Side Q , Do you really need safe area these days? Under scan is a thing of the past, a CRT TV issue, is it not?

 

I have projects that safe areas are requested for text and graphic overlays so they don't end up getting cut off in certain presentations like BluRays and DVDs (yes these are still requested by MANY clinets.) Plenty of times where overlays and text get cut off, even on new 4k OLED and LCD.tvs when outputting to disc format.

It's still a "stanard" thing that all overlays and text remain inside the inner safe line. I have noticed that a lot of TV broadcasts are still doing this standrad practice as well, as when I take footage captured from TV documentaries or news broadcasts, the graphic overlays or text for things like hashtags are always right inside that inner safe grid line.

It's still a "stanard" thing that all overlays and text …..inner safe grid line.

@Liberty610 - Thanks for taking time to explain. Very useful to know.

I'm afraid " that a lot of TV broadcasts are still doing this standrad practice" not because they hold it as a "standard" but their equipment still from last cnetury.

To change that costs millions of $.
And their brain remains also at that era, if not in the air.

I'm afraid " that a lot of TV broadcasts are still doing this standrad practice" not because they hold it as a "standard" but their equipment still from last cnetury.

To change that costs millions of $.
And their brain remains also at that era, if not in the air.

I doubt it. May of these broadcasts are 4k, indicating plenty of new equipment.

I'm afraid " that a lot of TV broadcasts are still doing this standrad practice" not because they hold it as a "standard" but their equipment still from last cnetury.

To change that costs millions of $.
And their brain remains also at that era, if not in the air.

That may well be true in some markets (countries), I'm not so sure that it applies globally where broadcast equipment is decidedly not 'last century'. If all TV broadcast equipment worldwide were all from the last century, then pro TV broadcast equipment manufacturers like Sony, Panasonic, BMD, etc would have long ago gone out of business due to no sales over the last 22+ years.

I've never been in a broadcast studio but know somehow about the workflow:
it is not which camera you are shooting, 2k or 4k;
it is not which NLE you are using, it's a complete machine behind the stage, everybody has his job to fill material into the machine, real timing work, credit, channel switch, signal control...
(here the credit has its size and position)
all the machine works through air or not, the workflow still the same.

An NLE's safe area is an imitation in the post editing for that department.

Germany stopped its on-air-TV, I think, in 2017.

They still sale machines, but under the same system.
So you have camera with 24p, 25p, 29.97p, 50p, 59.94p...we only have one 60Hz-videodisplay, why so many different fps?

They still sale machines, but under the same system.
So you have camera with 24p, 25p, 29.97p, 50p, 59.94p...we only have one 60Hz-videodisplay, why so many different fps?

I really don't know what machines you keep referring to, or why you are talking about fps. These have nothing to do with text or graphics being cut off displays when viewing content. Which is why the save zones are an option in Vegas. I have uploaded content to YouTube even that had text or graphics outside those safe zones, and when using the Youtube app on my 4k OLED, they get cut off. To my knowledge, this is a screen ratio/format thing.

Yo take any major US broadcast in news or sports specifically, and every single one of them uses these same areas as safe zones. You take any content from a US broadcast and load it into Vegas, and you can clearly see all of it is right inside those zones.

 

The US standard still requires that video produced for US OTA broadcast be compatible with older TVs (4x3 aspect). This means captioning and legal disclaimers must be within the title safe area.

Germany stopped its on-air-TV, I think, in 2017

You are probably referring to analogue transmissions. Germany, like most of the world, switched over to digital transmissions and has free-to-air transmissions. At least that's my impression from searching the net.

You are probably referring to analogue transmissions. 

Yes, I did mean that.

In another thread I also said, the so called safe area is only attributed to CRTVs which have very huge variation of their display area.

Modern LED screen doesn't have this under/over scan problem thus no need to create a safe area if your product not going to TV-station.

More important is the "safe area" at shooting that gives you choices to consider or abandon.

Modern LED screen doesn't have this under/over scan problem thus no need to create a safe area if your product not going to TV-station.

More important is the "safe area" at shooting that gives you choices to consider or abandon.

 

For me, this is simply not true. As I stated above, outputting to DVD and Bluray is something I still get requests for, and placing text and graphics outside the safe zones causes the items to be cut off/not properly viewable when viewing them on even modern TVs. Obviously if they were no longer needed, it wouldn't be a feature in Vegas.

I needed my grid lines back, and reinstalling Vegas brought them back. Thank you who attemped to help!

True or not true, it's complete OK if you obey such rules restrictedly.
In another thread there's somebody inserting Broadcast-Colors to his video bus track for a 100% safe levels!

It sounds scientific, is'nt it?